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2018/19 Idrissa Gueye

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It cheeses me off when we say “we want £40m” and then when it comes to the transfer it’s no where even remotely near. Bonuses can sod off, half of them are never achieved. They are PSG for for god sake. It’s not like they can’t afford it and the punishment is always sod all if they overspend
 

It will certainly be interesting to see how the rest of the team copes when we are stripped of Gana’s defensive brilliance, especially if as some contend we go for a more ‘dynamic’ set up.
For my money three players who may find life more difficult are Keane, Pickford and Gomes.
To be honest I’ve never actually been a great fan of a midfielder who is solely a ‘destroyer ‘ as such ,but Gana did it so well he was a pleasure to watch.
It does look like we will have a disruptive start to the season as we readjust to losing a player who was integral to our impressive performances.
 
“People” = Me.

He’s not like-for-like because Watford don’t play with a Gueye. And that’s precisely my point. Gueye is a dying breed. Even Kante, who is by far and away the best in that position, was asked to contribute more in an attacking sense by one of the best managers in Europe last season.
They do. His name is Etienne Capoue.
 
They do. His name is Etienne Capoue.

Not true. Watford played most of last season with a midfield 3, with Hughes, Capoue and Doucoure alternating who drops and who pushes forward. Gracia talked about the ability of all three to attack and defend and share responsibilities. So neither are a Gueye in the same sense.

Capoue scored more than Doucoure last season. Capoue also got as many goals last season as Gueye has in his entire Everton career.
 
Really struggling with people thinking Doucoure is a defensive midfielder or anything like Gana.

There's literally no similarities at all between them in styles.

I like Doucoure. I think going forward he has more to offer as a box-to-box player than Gana would.

But signing him to play him as a holding midfielder would be a complete waste.

I'm proper annoyed by this transfer tbh. Accepting it's probably likely, and I get the arguments why. But we really need to stop selling our best players.
 
Not true. Watford played most of last season with a midfield 3, with Hughes, Capoue and Doucoure alternating who drops and who pushes forward. Gracia talked about the ability of all three to attack and defend and share responsibilities. So neither are a Gueye in the same sense.

Capoue scored more than Doucoure last season. Capoue also got as many goals last season as Gueye has in his entire Everton career.

They actually play a kind of 4-2-2-2, with Hughes and Pereyra acting as the wider players who tuck in and compliment the midfield depending on where the ball is.

Doucoure was the box-to-box and Capoue the holder, though both did take turns to get forward, it was usually Doucoure who did.
 

Not true. Watford played most of last season with a midfield 3, with Hughes, Capoue and Doucoure alternating who drops and who pushes forward. Gracia talked about the ability of all three to attack and defend and share responsibilities. So neither are a Gueye in the same sense.

Capoue scored more than Doucoure last season. Capoue also got as many goals last season as Gueye has in his entire Everton career.
Watford played either 442 or 4222. Whatever set of numbers you want to pick. They had Doucoure and Capoue playing deep in midfield, Pereyra and Hughes as sort of attacking midfielders that played a little wide and two true forwards. I'm not sure they played 433 the entire season.

And Capoue scoring goals really doesn't mean he isn't doing the same things as Gana a majority of the time. It isn't a perfect comparison but Doucoure is closer to Gomes than Gueye.
 
Yeah, game of opinions. My point is that I don’t think fans of any of those clubs would be particularly satisfied with Gueye as a replacement for any of the aforementioned players. Even fewer so, if offered the swap, would take it.

If we signed any of them and got rid of Gueye, i’d be very pleased.



There is a case to be made that a “destroyer” isn’t a particularly good fit in Silva’s system and is barely utilised in the modern game anymore. It’s perceived in many corners as one dimensional. In that sense, Gueye being used rotationally at PSG, perhaps as a sub to close off games, makes a lot of sense.

More and more, players in that deep lying position are being asked by managers across Europe to contribute more than just tackles, either in a box to box sense (ala Doucoure), a passing / creative sense (ala Neves) or by dropping into a sweeper role alongside the back two, allowing the full backs to push on (ala Fabinho).

Don’t be surprised if the replacement for Gueye isn’t like for like. Silva may see it as an opportune time to create a more dynamic system.

Well his system relied heavily on Gueye last season. So he's gonna have to change the way he sets up or we will leak goals. The evidence is there in the games Gana missed.
 
It will certainly be interesting to see how the rest of the team copes when we are stripped of Gana’s defensive brilliance, especially if as some contend we go for a more ‘dynamic’ set up.
For my money three players who may find life more difficult are Keane, Pickford and Gomes.
To be honest I’ve never actually been a great fan of a midfielder who is solely a ‘destroyer ‘ as such ,but Gana did it so well he was a pleasure to watch.
It does look like we will have a disruptive start to the season as we readjust to losing a player who was integral to our impressive performances.

We’re is it we’re selling our best dm for years and gives his all every game?
 
Good luck to Gana, would be hard to argue that he didn't deserve the move, he's been the outstanding midfielder for a number of seasons now.
 

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