Is Sam that bad?

[Toffee in Jandals]

we've failed for years to beat the top 6 mate no matter the players/manager

I think that has more to do with the players having the mental fragility of a wet biscuit when we play top six teams.

 

[nsno-chris]

Great discussion mate, what an invaluable member of the forum you are

I know fam.

But I’d never create a thread to justify keeping this Fat oaf hoofball merchant on as Everton manager

My mere 3 words contributed far more than this abhorrent thread

And you’re welcome x

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I think that has more to do with the players having the mental fragility of a wet biscuit when we play top six teams.

Comes from the top too - didn't moshiri himself say something about games we're expected to lose?

 

[TonyS]

I know fam.

But I’d never create a thread to justify keeping this Fat oaf hoofball merchant on as Everton manager

My mere 3 words contributed far more than this abhorrent thread

And you’re welcome x

It's called adult discussion mate, prob best you go somewhere else

 

[nsno-chris]

It's called adult discussion mate, prob best you go somewhere else

I’ve seen us win Europe

You’re justifying keeping an anti football crook in as our manager

It’s quite clear who the adult is

 

[Lanolin]

We are a mid table side mate who haven't achieved anything for over 2 decades, I do wonder who blues think we should get thats better than Sam

Well using your own metric, in those 23 years since we won a trophy, how many times has a team managed by Sam Allardyce finished above Everton? Once? Twice maybe? So yes, we are better than him, regardless of what some people would like us to believe.

 

[sageyefc]

Hope he chokes on his oxo cube

 

[flibbyflob]

It's Walsh buying the players though

Well Koeman bought the French fraud surely.

Isn't it a team effort, the manager and Walsh discuss players on a list and he gets the ones the manager wants most?

It should be like that, no idea if it is.

 

[ADT]

He's not that bad. Still don't want him anywhere near this club tho

 

[Toffee in Jandals]

Comes from the top too - didn't moshiri himself say something about games we're expected to lose?

Yeah, the home defeat to Burnley earlier this season was apparently the first "unexpected loss". Which therefore means the losses to Spurs, Chelsea, Manchester United etc. earlier were "expected".

You're right, how on earth do you think the players will respond with an attitude like that from above. FFS, makes me so angry

 

[sageyefc]

Still the worst points to game ratio in our history

 

[TonyS]

I’ve seen us win Europe

You’re justifying keeping an anti football crook in as our manager

It’s quite clear who the adult is

It's not the 80s mate, you need to realise the state we are in and why we begging Sam to come here, like it or not he's turned us around and still might see us get a Europa place

 

[Axlswhk]

big sam will be one of the worst choice of a manager if we are to fulfill our attacking capability next season.

We have a mouth watering team next season.
Onyekuru
Lookman
Siggy
Walcott
Maybe Tosun will come good.

We need a manager who knows how to play a proper team without worrying a 19th place team beating us!

 

[nsno-chris]

It's not the 80s mate, you need to realise the state we are in and why we begging Sam to come here, like it or not he's turned us around and still might see us get a Europa place

Lol

 

[billyblue80]

Pretty much this. The fact that for the first time Sam has a squad valued in the hundreds of millions and yet he still sets his teams up away from home with five at the back and two defensive midfielders tells you all you need to know. He is comfortable in mid-table and then taking all the plaudits for being some kind of genius for lifting a side from 18th to 10th.

Brings on a holding midfielder when we are 3-0 up instead of a 27 million pound forward. Says it all for me.