The Hibbert Agenda
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You get around it by not equating Nations to race or how many generations you've spent in a certain place..
Jack Wilshere's comments
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Very John Lennon that mate.
Being an Alien I wouldn't be able play for them
Mills telling campbell and lineker to pipe down, comes across pretty well actually
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24500288
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24500288
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My view is that it really doesn't matter what Wilshere says - he's asked about it and it isn't too surprising that he ended up saying something that could be twisted. I don't think he's racist, but I do think he's probably not thought much about it.
The England football team should be one of two things, I think (though, having said that, I don't really follow any national team)
1. It's to prove who has the best coaching and training of players. The national level is a way to essentially show how a group of players has developed over 10 or so years playing together. This only really works if you have a set style that is forced through and the players are coached together very closely from a young age (Barcelona, France). In this case, you should only prefer players who have trained within a particular nation's system for a length of time.
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2. It's representative of the nation as a whole - it's supposed to highlight positive elements of the nation at large. Britain has a vibrant immigrant population some of whom choose to take nationality after 5 years. These people are British legally and I really don't think it is up to anyone to start deciding what makes someone British. If they are legally British they are just as British as someone who was born here. You may feel more British, English, patriotic - but you don't get to decide whether they are actually British. If we go with the representative nation then yes, live for 5 years and have a kickabout at Wembley if you fancy it.
The England football team should be one of two things, I think (though, having said that, I don't really follow any national team)
1. It's to prove who has the best coaching and training of players. The national level is a way to essentially show how a group of players has developed over 10 or so years playing together. This only really works if you have a set style that is forced through and the players are coached together very closely from a young age (Barcelona, France). In this case, you should only prefer players who have trained within a particular nation's system for a length of time.
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2. It's representative of the nation as a whole - it's supposed to highlight positive elements of the nation at large. Britain has a vibrant immigrant population some of whom choose to take nationality after 5 years. These people are British legally and I really don't think it is up to anyone to start deciding what makes someone British. If they are legally British they are just as British as someone who was born here. You may feel more British, English, patriotic - but you don't get to decide whether they are actually British. If we go with the representative nation then yes, live for 5 years and have a kickabout at Wembley if you fancy it.
I agree with this, and that is what Wilshere is saying I think
steken1
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One of the sides I admire the most in Football is Bilbao like. I also consider the Lisbon Lions win the greatest achievement in football history.
Baines' left foot
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Must admit I don't mind Mills at all.
Dare I say it Michael Owen isn't too bad a pundit, either. He's got the most boring voice in the world but he's actually not bad.
Maybe my standards of punditry have just been reduced drastically after years of Andy Townsend, Alan Hansen etc..
I agree, it will never be repeated.
steken1
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The game would have to change radically. Man Utd's win with a lot of lads who came through their system was a decent one as well TBF
steken1
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England have only been crap since we syopped playing like england and tried to be every other nation under the sun thats won a pot.
Its nice when you get suprised by someones standards as a pundit, like watching ringside the other night, You'd assume Paulie Malignaggi would be a grade A belter, but when you see him as a pundit he also really does come across well
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