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2020/21 James Rodriguez

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riddick said:
I will say one thing, it's astonishing to me, especially as an outsider, how theres seemingly almost nothing of an offseason for footballers. In the States the main sports have minimum 4-5 months off to recuperate and such. Not saying I want no football for 4 months but it's seemingly weeks off for some. I've no clue how the body can recuperate that quickly and then go back to training.

As soon as the season ends a bunch of players are going to start training with their countries, most will play for another month or so and then have 3 weeks "off" before rejoining their clubs to get ready for a new season.

Nothing to do with James, just something that I've always found not right. But maybe something to do with James, maybe a whole summer off would do him and his calf good?
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Yes you're right and a lot of players who play in a summer tournament tend to make very slow starts to next season. Not surprising really!
 
I do think him retiring from national team duty would help prolong his club career and allow him to stay fit for longer periods, but it's a big ask for someone who is and has been so talismanic for his national side. Ultimately it's his decision.
 
Played 63 times for Porto in 3 season
Played 43 times for Bayern in 2 seasons
Played 85 times for Madrid in 4 seasons

Played 23 times for us in 1 season, if he does that again, then he's hit his Bayern figure.

Apart from his 1 season at Monaco where he played 34 times in 1 season, he doesnt tend to play a full fixture list.
 
GrandOldTeam said:
I've held this view all season, until last Thursday.

I think Ancelotti has hung him out to dry a bit with his comments, and that could suggest he's a bit irked.

But as I keep saying - only trying to read between the lines. I've not got a clue - really.
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Sure, but even if he is irked, it doesn’t mean it’s unexpected.

I guess the point I’m trying to make is that both things could be true. Carlo could well be annoyed but not surprised. This is almost certainly one of the negatives he weighed up against the positives, and perhaps this is his way of dealing with it.

Either way, I trust Carlo to get the best outcome for Everton.
 

riddick said:
I will say one thing, it's astonishing to me, especially as an outsider, how theres seemingly almost nothing of an offseason for footballers. In the States the main sports have minimum 4-5 months off to recuperate and such. Not saying I want no football for 4 months but it's seemingly weeks off for some. I've no clue how the body can recuperate that quickly and then go back to training.

As soon as the season ends a bunch of players are going to start training with their countries, most will play for another month or so and then have 3 weeks "off" before rejoining their clubs to get ready for a new season.

Nothing to do with James, just something that I've always found not right. But maybe something to do with James, maybe a whole summer off would do him and his calf good?
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It's a problem for sure, even worse is how football authorities like UEFA keep coming up with new ideas to fit even more games into every season. Even Man City players say it's too demanding and they are able to rotate more than most
 
I'm disappointed with James, but that's tempered with much bigger frustration at a lot of the other players.

They seemed to go awol for the run-in last season as well, and this was without him. It's either that or a sudden up-turn when the pressure is off.

We all know the squad collectively over the last few years consistently fail to capitalise on any opportunities, follow one great result with a pathetic no-show the next, and look completely bereft of what would define a team for all or large portions of matches.

It's a lot more complicated than a "bad attitude" diagnosis. But if there are players smarting over any perceived favouritism of James and a primadonna attitude, I hope they'd take some time very soon to reflect on their own particular "contributions" this season and what they amount to, relative to the millionaire wages they also take home.

We had a bench recently where the stat I think was 2 goals and 3 assists from them all season. I'm surprised those weren't good enough to merit a starting place, as bad as Ancelotti's options are. James badly let down fans who were so excited at the prospect of seeing him play in person, that's undeniable. But you take the moral high ground in more than one way in football. I thought the links of James to us last season were a complete joke and more media rubbish, and there is no way on earth he comes here on terms that are not completely dictated by him.

At least there is some honesty in that approach, if not the "fatigue" explanation offered, but without him this season we'd we firmly bottom-half by now, as if things aren't bad enough already.

My moral indignation is for some of his teammates, masquerading as professional elite footballers, some of whom seemingly can't pass, can't score, can't run, can't tackle, can't move, can't do bugger all. James has some way to go to equal them.
 
brieverton said:
I'm disappointed with James, but that's tempered with much bigger frustration at a lot of the other players.

They seemed to go awol for the run-in last season as well, and this was without him. It's either that or a sudden up-turn when the pressure is off.

We all know the squad collectively over the last few years consistently fail to capitalise on any opportunities, follow one great result with a pathetic no-show the next, and look completely bereft of what would define a team for all or large portions of matches.

It's a lot more complicated than a "bad attitude" diagnosis. But if there are players smarting over any perceived favouritism of James and a primadonna attitude, I hope they'd take some time very soon to reflect on their own particular "contributions" this season and what they amount to, relative to the millionaire wages they also take home.

We had a bench recently where the stat I think was 2 goals and 3 assists from them all season. I'm surprised those weren't good enough to merit a starting place, as bad as Ancelotti's options are. James badly let down fans who were so excited at the prospect of seeing him play in person, that's undeniable. But you take the moral high ground in more than one way in football. I thought the links of James to us last season were a complete joke and more media rubbish, and there is no way on earth he comes here on terms that are not completely dictated by him.

At least there is some honesty in that approach, if not the "fatigue" explanation offered, but without him this season we'd we firmly bottom-half by now, as if things aren't bad enough already.

My moral indignation is for some of his teammates, professional elite footballers, some of whom seemingly can't pass, can't score, can't run, can't tackle, can't move, can't do bugger all. James has some way to go to equal them.
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There is no indication of that - although it is difficult to give an exact answer. We have taken significantly more points without JR, than with him.
 

kenada_blue said:
Real are full of them
United have Pogba
Barca are getting rid of loads of them.
Chelsea used stock pile them (long list of players who just went for a paycheck).
PSG have your Draxler's and Kurzawa's. Happy to bank rather than play.

The argument is more...can we afford the luxury rather than the talent taking the mick.
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Not sure about that argument Kenada, although Pogba could certainly do a lot more than he does,I think your last sentence was too long, it reads better, to me as : Can we afford the luxury player taking the mick.
 
Tin-Tin said:
Played 63 times for Porto in 3 season
Played 43 times for Bayern in 2 seasons
Played 85 times for Madrid in 4 seasons

Played 23 times for us in 1 season, if he does that again, then he's hit his Bayern figure.

Apart from his 1 season at Monaco where he played 34 times in 1 season, he doesnt tend to play a full fixture list.
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Everton should stay away from faded ex stars. It has never worked and it will never work. Gascoigne, Ginola, Rooney Rodriguez, Eto are only bad for motivation, cohesion, and bank balance!
 
billybeeru said:
Doubt he would help us much against City anyway considering we’ll be on the back foot from the start and only have about 20% possession.
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Honestly, these are the matches we need him the most. We're not going to have the ball, when we DO have the ball he sees things others simply don't. On his day he can create just that one thing you need to win the match.
 

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