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2021/22 James Rodriguez

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Papa Shango said:
We tracked Bailey? Since when?

Unless tracking means his name coming up on here for a few years?
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We've scouted him extensively for 2 seasons.

We'll do it with loads of players, but he was a target and a priority one. I imagine Gray was deemed the more sensible option given our financial restraints this summer (which is fine, I like Gray), but it'd have been interesting if we'd managed to shift Kean, as I reckon we'd have gone for Bailey. And we were in talks this summer too. We just didn't have the cash. We'll move on, but it's frustrating.
 
BlueToff said:
McNeil is a good crosser. Happens to play on the left where Richarlison is gonna spend a lot of time unless we play 4-4-2 which isn't suited to our midfield options.

He played more passes/crosses into the box than any of the players last season, per 90, other than McNeil. So I'm not sure why he'd be unable to help us in that regard.

Remember that incredible ball he played to Richarlison in the first derby, when Richarlison hit the post? How about his cross in to Keane for the equaliser in that game, or the one to Mina in the Brighton game. How about the defence-splitting througball to Coleman in that Palace match? How about the brilliant pass out to Digne against Wolves (A), when he played in a 4-4-2 and did it really well, working hard as a striker in the middle of January?

Quality players can fit into systems. I don't think James should stay and start every game. I think he should stay and complement other players, and that we should focus on getting tosh out of the door, not actual quality. But no, this is Everton, we just give up when things are hard, waggle our finger at big clubs taking the p*** (though do nothing about it) and then do something nice for charity.
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Bottom line: are you saying he does anywhere near enough for Everton for posters to justify getting behind him when he's taking the utter piss out of this club behind their back on social media?
 

davek said:
Bottom line: are you saying he does anywhere near enough for Everton for posters to justify getting behind him when he's taking the utter piss out of this club behind their back on social media?
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I don't know if he's taking the mick because all I see is someone posting 'never stop believing' on Instagram. So that would be conjecture.

But, I also don't believe our club or the way it is run deserves much respect atm. I think we're a shambles, and our fanbase can't say they're owed anything given the disgusting chant the other day.
 
BlueToff said:
We've scouted him extensively for 2 seasons.

We'll do it with loads of players, but he was a target and a priority one. I imagine Gray was deemed the more sensible option given our financial restraints this summer (which is fine, I like Gray), but it'd have been interesting if we'd managed to shift Kean, as I reckon we'd have gone for Bailey. And we were in talks this summer too. We just didn't have the cash. We'll move on, but it's frustrating.
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How do you know this? There is no indication at all that we have scouted him for two years, would we even have to scout him, just watch him on the telly every week!
 
@Brennan factamundo of the day: "only 21 players in the entire league contributed more goals than Rodriguez".

How can we allow this talent to leave the club?

Goddamn you Benitez.
 

BlueToff said:
I don't know if he's taking the mick because all I see is someone posting 'never stop believing' on Instagram. So that would be conjecture.

But, I also don't believe our club or the way it is run deserves much respect atm. I think we're a shambles, and our fanbase can't say they're owed anything given the disgusting chant the other day.
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Papa Shango said:
Yes they absolutely are.

Don't start me on stats again! They are utterly worthless. The only stat that matters is the score.
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Such an archaic and out-dated way of looking at things.

Stats can be used to underline or reinforce a point. They are not the be all and end all.

However, when determining if a player is creative or not, it's good to look at how many chances they created. When the eye test tells me that Everton are in desperate need of a ball carrier, and then I see that Everton had the lest progressive carries last season, it backs up the point.

Brentford have just got promoted to the PL, a club entirely based on 'moneyballing' and statistics. Norwich do it very similar.

There's a balance to be struck but when assessing the impact of players, they certainly aren't worthless.
 
Papa Shango said:
How do you know this? There is no indication at all that we have scouted him for two years, would we even have to scout him, just watch him on the telly every week!
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It's been reliably reported by good journalists with solid contacts at/around the club, mate.
 

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