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2021/22 James Rodriguez

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And, put yourself in James' shoes here for a second - I am not saying he's not got to take his fair share of responsibility, he should probably keep quiet (but, his social media presence wasn't an issue last year and it certainly wasn't an issue for us when he was saying 'Merseyside is blue!' after the Anfield derby).

He came because CA was here, we all know that. But he's got a contract and would likely also see that out if no move comes, and he'd contribute what he does because he's a quality player.

We've hired that the fanbase was pretty much universally against at first and does have history with James from the time at Madrid where James was basically made a scapegoat. Now, I think both James and Benitez are professional enough to see past that, but it will also be like 'Jesus Christ' (remember when Rom and Mirallas found out during that friendly v Utd in 2016 that Martinez had got the Belgium job?), this fella again??

Anyway, that happens, he returns to training, all that stuff - as he should do and has to btw, it's his job. A week or so later, a bloke who by all accounts James was pretty close to in the squad and is one of the senior players gets arrested and charged with a very serious offence (which he denies). His best mate in Mina and the other South Americans are either away at the Copa or being shown the door like Bernard and instructed to not even return to training.

Then there's all the rumours - which again, I'm not absolving him of responsibility of - and the fanbase starts to question it. Then, there was clearly a conversation with the club where James was informed that if an offer came in we would sell him (and that will be because of our financial issues). Now, like I've said before, I'm sure he would happily leave, but also, in that situation, as the most creative player by far in the squad, I'd probably be thinking 'hang on, they want me out, but they're going to keep Iwobi, keep Delph, keep Gomes' etc.

It's all a mess and both sides have to take their share of the blame. But because I'm an Everton fan, I'm more concerned about how this club is run and I think it is run dreadfully.

And we have form for this too. We did the same with Rooney. Now, whether or not that was the right call is not up for debate, but we instructed that our leading scorer from the previous season, that we'd made a huge fanfare about returning, and could still have definitely have been part of the squad in Silva's first season, had to go; that he didn't have any future here.

We do this because we just have no idea how to get rid of the players who do actually contribute naff all.
 
You've spent the last few pages saying it's only really here there's any mention of it.

Nope.

Here's another;


And another;

Just FYI mate, having worked with Goal, they aren't always the most reliable with translations.

I'm not saying it's not true, but Reach and Goal aren't people I'd be certainly jumping for for definitive proof.

I'd trust a Spanish speaker on here to translate over either of them. I'm pretty confident what they're reporting is right, but there's already been multiple different translations over the last 12 hours.
 
And, put yourself in James' shoes here for a second - I am not saying he's not got to take his fair share of responsibility, he should probably keep quiet (but, his social media presence wasn't an issue last year and it certainly wasn't an issue for us when he was saying 'Merseyside is blue!' after the Anfield derby).

He came because CA was here, we all know that. But he's got a contract and would likely also see that out if no move comes, and he'd contribute what he does because he's a quality player.

We've hired that the fanbase was pretty much universally against at first and does have history with James from the time at Madrid where James was basically made a scapegoat. Now, I think both James and Benitez are professional enough to see past that, but it will also be like 'Jesus Christ' (remember when Rom and Mirallas found out during that friendly v Utd in 2016 that Martinez had got the Belgium job?), this fella again??

Anyway, that happens, he returns to training, all that stuff - as he should do and has to btw, it's his job. A week or so later, a bloke who by all accounts James was pretty close to in the squad and is one of the senior players gets arrested and charged with a very serious offence (which he denies). His best mate in Mina and the other South Americans are either away at the Copa or being shown the door like Bernard and instructed to not even return to training.

Then there's all the rumours - which again, I'm not absolving him of responsibility of - and the fanbase starts to question it. Then, there was clearly a conversation with the club where James was informed that if an offer came in we would sell him (and that will be because of our financial issues). Now, like I've said before, I'm sure he would happily leave, but also, in that situation, as the most creative player by far in the squad, I'd probably be thinking 'hang on, they want me out, but they're going to keep Iwobi, keep Delph, keep Gomes' etc.

It's all a mess and both sides have to take their share of the blame. But because I'm an Everton fan, I'm more concerned about how this club is run and I think it is run dreadfully.

And we have form for this too. We did the same with Rooney. Now, whether or not that was the right call is not up for debate, but we instructed that our leading scorer from the previous season, that we'd made a huge fanfare about returning, and could still have definitely have been part of the squad in Silva's first season, had to go; that he didn't have any future here.

We do this because we just have no idea how to get rid of the players who do actually contribute naff all.

It's not about social media and going on twitch or whatever. It's saying stuff like he doesn't think he'll be playing. Let's keep team news in house and not over the internet on a Monday or Tuesday evening
 
And, put yourself in James' shoes here for a second - I am not saying he's not got to take his fair share of responsibility, he should probably keep quiet (but, his social media presence wasn't an issue last year and it certainly wasn't an issue for us when he was saying 'Merseyside is blue!' after the Anfield derby).

He came because CA was here, we all know that. But he's got a contract and would likely also see that out if no move comes, and he'd contribute what he does because he's a quality player.

We've hired that the fanbase was pretty much universally against at first and does have history with James from the time at Madrid where James was basically made a scapegoat. Now, I think both James and Benitez are professional enough to see past that, but it will also be like 'Jesus Christ' (remember when Rom and Mirallas found out during that friendly v Utd in 2016 that Martinez had got the Belgium job?), this fella again??

Anyway, that happens, he returns to training, all that stuff - as he should do and has to btw, it's his job. A week or so later, a bloke who by all accounts James was pretty close to in the squad and is one of the senior players gets arrested and charged with a very serious offence (which he denies). His best mate in Mina and the other South Americans are either away at the Copa or being shown the door like Bernard and instructed to not even return to training.

Then there's all the rumours - which again, I'm not absolving him of responsibility of - and the fanbase starts to question it. Then, there was clearly a conversation with the club where James was informed that if an offer came in we would sell him (and that will be because of our financial issues). Now, like I've said before, I'm sure he would happily leave, but also, in that situation, as the most creative player by far in the squad, I'd probably be thinking 'hang on, they want me out, but they're going to keep Iwobi, keep Delph, keep Gomes' etc.

It's all a mess and both sides have to take their share of the blame. But because I'm an Everton fan, I'm more concerned about how this club is run and I think it is run dreadfully.

And we have form for this too. We did the same with Rooney. Now, whether or not that was the right call is not up for debate, but we instructed that our leading scorer from the previous season, that we'd made a huge fanfare about returning, and could still have definitely have been part of the squad in Silva's first season, had to go; that he didn't have any future here.

We do this because we just have no idea how to get rid of the players who do actually contribute naff all.

It's not Everton's fault a contracted player on at least 100k a week doesn't know what his employer is doing.

He's unprofessional, clearly.
 

I know he’s not arsed about it. I’ve said all summer I don’t think he’s arsed either way.

he’d happily go, if he stays he stays and in that case we should use him

I’d prefer the latter option but because of the financial difficulty we are in we have absolutely told James we are open to offers for him. Whether he wants to leave or not, I imagine him being told we’re happy to punt him because we’ve brought in Andros Townsend on a free doesn’t exactly scream ambition to the lad
The thing is, whether it does or not, it doesn’t really matter. Everton don’t exist just to appease some half arsed Colombian footballer with explosive calf’s, who’s attitude is questioned by people outside of the club and people associated to his own national team.

Whilst Townsend isn’t anywhere near as talented, I’m pretty sure we will get more games out of him and he isn’t using the club purely for his own whims and will put in maximum effort, which is what we need right now.
 
It's not about social media and going on twitch or whatever. It's saying stuff like he doesn't think he'll be playing. Let's keep team news in house and not over the internet on a Monday or Tuesday evening

Well he was in isolation wasn't he...

But yeah, agree.

However, like I said last week when that was said, it's because our club is genuinely so dreadful with communication and keeping fans updated. There is nothing, and rumours fill that void.
 
It's not Everton's fault a contracted player on at least 100k a week doesn't know what his employer is doing.

He's unprofessional, clearly.

I don't think Everton know what they're doing.

Also, I'm not blaming Everton for what James said yesterday.
 

Just FYI mate, having worked with Goal, they aren't always the most reliable with translations.

I'm not saying it's not true, but Reach and Goal aren't people I'd be certainly jumping for for definitive proof.

I'd trust a Spanish speaker on here to translate over either of them. I'm pretty confident what they're reporting is right, but there's already been multiple different translations over the last 12 hours.

That's another point entirely.

One member was saying it's only people on here who is making any issue and that it isn't reported elsewhere.

That's wrong - as I've shown.

Also - any translation offered is unprofessional. He shouldn't be commenting at all.
 
The thing is, whether it does or not, it doesn’t really matter. Everton don’t exist just to appease some half arsed Colombian footballer with explosive calf’s, who’s attitude is questioned by people outside of the club and people associated to his own national team.

Whilst Townsend isn’t anywhere near as talented, I’m pretty sure we will get more games out of him and he isn’t using the club purely for his own whims and will put in maximum effort, which is what we need right now.
No, they exist to try and win things, which we haven't done for 26 years.
 
Well he was in isolation wasn't he...

But yeah, agree.

However, like I said last week when that was said, it's because our club is genuinely so dreadful with communication and keeping fans updated. There is nothing, and rumours fill that void.

The club don't have to say exactly who is available each week and I don't think it's professional to be talking about availability days in advance.. There are possibly confidentiality issues with covid as well.

It's got to the stage where if he's leaving, it needs to be done asap. This current situation isn't good for anyone, neither the club if they need the money, or the player who presumably doesn't want to be here.
 
Just FYI mate, having worked with Goal, they aren't always the most reliable with translations.

I'm not saying it's not true, but Reach and Goal aren't people I'd be certainly jumping for for definitive proof.

I'd trust a Spanish speaker on here to translate over either of them. I'm pretty confident what they're reporting is right, but there's already been multiple different translations over the last 12 hours.

I'm sure one of the various media outlets who have covered the story have 1 competent spanish speaker..
 
That's another point entirely.

One member was saying it's only people on here who is making any issue and that it isn't reported elsewhere.

That's wrong - as I've shown.

Also - any translation offered is unprofessional. He shouldn't be commenting at all.

I don't think we have a right to tell other people what and what not to say but yes I'd prefer it if he just didn't answer the Everton questions on his streams.

I have no issue with him doing the streams, he's in isolation (and said last Friday that he had 8 days to do so it was no shock that he wouldn't be playing this week).

What happens after this well, it remains to be seen.
 

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