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Confirmed Signing James Tarkowski

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Steer clear of Burnley grocks.
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90k a week though. thats challenging for honours sort of money. Wether we like it or not the clubs been run so stupidly over the past few years we're not feeding anywhere near the top table. And likely not to be for a while. We're competing mid table right now. Do you think brighton wolves etc are paying 90/100k a week to defenders.
I think we're largely in this mess because we pay out like this. Bernard 120k. Most players playing for Champion league competing teams are not on that.
What seems to be lost here is he's a relegated player from Burnley. He's hardly jaap stam.
Absolutely this.

At absolute best over the next couple of seasons, we're looking at 8th-10th. That would represent real progress and its probably (sadly) the apex for us in the short-term.

That means a wage bill commensurate with where we are and where we might get to.

It doesn't mean we can't improve, but there is a ceiling there. We must first stabilise and then seek sustainable but continuous improvement.

We can do that with room to spare without handing any new signing £100k a week or in excess of that. Whether we will or not is another matter but if anything we've learnt that throwing money around isn't the solution. And that horse has now bolted anyway, or at least let's hope it has.
 
90k a week though. thats challenging for honours sort of money. Wether we like it or not the clubs been run so stupidly over the past few years we're not feeding anywhere near the top table. And likely not to be for a while. We're competing mid table right now. Do you think brighton wolves etc are paying 90/100k a week to defenders.
I think we're largely in this mess because we pay out like this. Bernard 120k. Most players playing for Champion league competing teams are not on that.
What seems to be lost here is he's a relegated player from Burnley. He's hardly jaap stam.
you're right, we do overspend on wages, and I'd like to think we'd negotiate that down. We got caught up in a 'need to spend to progress' kind of spiral and the problem is other clubs will be doing the same now. So the question is, incl free transfer, is the outlay over the course of a contract worth it, nothing else.
As regards 'relegated player from Burnley', he is without doubt one of their best players and remember they finished the season with better GD than us, their bigger problem being the other end of the pitch.
Plenty good players were in relegated teams in the past, Roy Keane for one
 
what money would we get for selling him? how many points is he going to generate for us?

since the answers are "nothing" and "none" we should make like Epicurean atomic theory and swerve
 

you're right, we do overspend on wages, and I'd like to think we'd negotiate that down. We got caught up in a 'need to spend to progress' kind of spiral and the problem is other clubs will be doing the same now. So the question is, incl free transfer, is the outlay over the course of a contract worth it, nothing else.
As regards 'relegated player from Burnley', he is without doubt one of their best players and remember they finished the season with better GD than us, their bigger problem being the other end of the pitch.
Plenty good players were in relegated teams in the past, Roy Keane for one

Im always wary of that bit there. Mentioned it before. They're not like brighton who attack teams but dont have quality finishers. They just dont really attack that much. Esp under dyche. So its not like the defence were standing on their own keeping out the opposition. The camp in as a unit. Its a big consideration to take into account when buying a player.
Tbh if it happens it happens. The club should back off though if him and his agent start asking for silly money.
 

We've given ourselves a rep
Absolutely this.

At absolute best over the next couple of seasons, we're looking at 8th-10th. That would represent real progress and its probably (sadly) the apex for us in the short-term.

That means a wage bill commensurate with where we are and where we might get to.

It doesn't mean we can't improve, but there is a ceiling there. We must first stabilise and then seek sustainable but continuous improvement.

We can do that with room to spare without handing any new signing £100k a week or in excess of that. Whether we will or not is another matter but if anything we've learnt that throwing money around isn't the solution. And that horse has now bolted anyway, or at least let's hope it has.
We've given ourselves a reputation of being that daft club that will offer a mediocre player £100k+. The problem now is that if you want to sign anyone they're gonna look around the rest of the dressing room and ask why some of the other cloggers are on £100k+ and they're only getting offered £80k or whatever.

It'll take a few seasons to get our wage structure sorted and in the meantime I think we are going to be restricted to promoting players from lower divisions where a more modest pay rise still seems like a massive boost for them.

If you're looking at free transfers around age 30 then you'd be wanting someone who has been released from a top side. Say if Kyle Walker from City or Marcos Alonso from Chelsea got released (full backs, I know) they're the kind of experienced free transfers you want. Absolutely not James Tarkowski or other bottom of the table donkeys. I'd rather go and give a Championship defender a chance, someone from the sides that just missed out and probably think they need to move to progress now
 
I would like to see how many came in the last few months of his time at us.

Yeah he got 0, then went to Villa and got 4 in 16. Literally the only time in the Prem he hasn’t consistently created is when Benitez didn’t allow him to play an attacking role.

He creates goals more consistently than Joao Cancelo. Who is a great fullback.
 
Tarkowski for that kind of money is a no from me its bonkers that kind of money is even being considered for a player like him, as mentioned we need to be looking to bring championship players in or even the likes of Bassey from rangers were 60k would probably be a huge rise to him I know we would need to offer transfer fees for these players and money is tight but 90k for Tarkowski is absolutely not the way to go.
 
Tarkowski for that kind of money is a no from me its bonkers that kind of money is even being considered for a player like him, as mentioned we need to be looking to bring championship players in or even the likes of Bassey from rangers were 60k would probably be a huge rise to him I know we would need to offer transfer fees for these players and money is tight but 90k for Tarkowski is absolutely not the way to go.
Total outlay is still way less than buying a target comparable to him
 

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