irishgoose
Player Valuation: £15m
Kai havertz ? Anyone know anything about this guy? I don’t watch bundesliga.
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EverBlue92
Player Valuation: £8m
He wasnt a flop I suggest you go read up on Coutinho's time at Inter as he couldn't get in their midfield and was surplus to requirements. If he was a flop a club like Liverpool wouldnt have signed him.
Barbosa is a proper goalscorer in the Brazilian league
Like Tosun was a proper goalscorer in the Turkish league
Like Niasse was a proper goalscorer in the Russian league
All sub standard leagues that carry major risks.
If he signed great stuff I'll support him but I would rather he be brought in as a back up forward on loan with an actual proven goalscorer come in.
And you can knock the fifa fanboy crap on the head, dont even own a game console softie I just know my footie.
Neymar scored goals in the Brazilian league
Wow
Dramatic turn around that. Thought you said he was garbage and didnt want a player like him because of the league full of tradesmen he has been top scorer in.
He's a 22 yr old Full capped Brazilian and Olympic Gold medal winner.
Is that the same league that spawned Ronaldo , Ronaldinho , Rivaldo , Neymar , Willian , Jairzinho , Rivelinho , Pele , Eder , Fernandinho , Gabriel Jesus etc etc etc etc.
Btw Richarlison Mina & Bernard from there too.
Stop talking wallop mate.
EverBlue92
Player Valuation: £8m
And he also scored them in the big leagues mate.
Im not saying Barbosa is destined to be a flop, but at 22/23 the majority of the top players over there have moved on by that age whereas he has had to return to that division because he never adapted overseas.
Neymar, Richarlison, Jesus all recently moved when they were 19/20 and have scored goals at a higher level. Barbosa struggled to adapt both in Italy and Portugal (not there long granted).
I just think our fans have some backward way of thinking in that any player who is highly rated in a poor league is 75/25 more likely to be a hit than a miss when in reality its the other way around. Those same fans also turn their noses up at players like Wilson, Vardy, Arnautovic who actually would come in to this side and improve us (whilst admittedly being underwhelming in excitement).
If we are to take a punt on anyone abroad it should be someone like Rodrigo, Lopez, Willian Jose or even a big name at a smaller club like Werner (obviously unlikely) who have actually scored and performed in leagues of quality similiar to England. Obviously you still get the chance of a flop (Sandro) but the odds are alot less likely than signings from pub leagues.
T
Nothing wrong with a hard days homest work
I done with 30 years ago and enjoyed it
Not enough to repeat it but I enjoyed it at the time
Barbosa fits the profile of some of Silvas / Brands signings
Young , made the big move too soon , didn’t settle
But a few Brazilians , a Portuguese superstar in the middle and a Portuguese manager with a reputation of getting players to like and trust him quickly may help him
Bed in quickly
o be honest I’m getting a bit posed off with all this slagging off tradesman
Nothing wrong with a hard days homest work
I done with 30 years ago and enjoyed it
Not enough to repeat it but I enjoyed it at the time
Barbosa fits the profile of some of Silvas / Brands signings
Young , made the big move too soon , didn’t settle
But a few Brazilians , a Portuguese superstar in the middle and a Portuguese manager with a reputation of getting players to like and trust him quickly may help him
Bed in quickly
I've not really seen enough of the lad tbh but do know he was very well thought of a year or 2 ago but for someone to call him garbage without any substance is just nutz.
I read a while ago we were interested in Pedro from Fluminense ( i do like him ) until he got badly injured. So it shows Silva/ Brands are looking at that market.
So did Jo.
ijjysmith
Calm
He was meant to be the next big thing a few years back.
No idea how he’s progressed.
I hope there’s something in the link as he’s brilliant
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
Not really. I know it was a joke, but Jo didn't score much in Brazil at all.
Just about better than 1 in 4 (about 1 in 3.5?) before coming to England. Neymar was roughly 1 in 2. Pretty sure Neymar is more than twice the player Jo ever was though.
Thing is, stats might tell you who's maybe worth taking a look at. Nothing more though and they're nothing like enough to tell you whether a player is worth signing.
CRIMHEAD
Player Valuation: £40m
Just about better than 1 in 4 (about 1 in 3.5?) before coming to England. Neymar was roughly 1 in 2. Pretty sure Neymar is more than twice the player Jo ever was though.
Thing is, stats might tell you who's maybe worth taking a look at. Nothing more though and they're nothing like enough to tell you whether a player is worth signing.
Uh, yeah, but in this case the stats told the tale well. Neymar was good, Jo wasn't.
Borussin
Player Valuation: £1m
Havertz is only 19 now.
Fantastic talent. He's got it all really, big strong skilled player, very good passer, very mobile, intelligent player, just a natural talent.
When he decides to leave Leverkusen, he'll have his pick of clubs.
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