ijjysmith
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Sadly bigger than us in my opinion. Maybe if we had the cash influx we'd be up there winning things instead. But not the way it's all worked out.
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Sadly bigger than us in my opinion. Maybe if we had the cash influx we'd be up there winning things instead. But not the way it's all worked out.
orchard
Player Valuation: £60m
What about the Antipodes ?
royalbalou
Player Valuation: £20m
This would apply to very few Everton fans I know..I'm not saying we are better than other fans...but we are certainly more passionate than most.
How would you explain the masses that travel to aways/abroad despite winning nothing - the counter to the initial argument
By god I'm blue
Banned at own request
we have all gone a little off topic here I suppose, so back to it.
Koff Chelsea you Mickey Droy, Clive Walker, racist metro, team mate's bird shagging, dodgy oil tycoon, thick gold chain wearing, pie and mash eating bad accented bunch of over glorified biffs.
Koff Chelsea you Mickey Droy, Clive Walker, racist metro, team mate's bird shagging, dodgy oil tycoon, thick gold chain wearing, pie and mash eating bad accented bunch of over glorified biffs.
Nah not buying it. Thinking about it more I don't think you can judge whether a club is big or not whilst they are successful. It's when that success dries up you find out how big they are. Whether it would be like that now remains to be seen.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Arguments about which clubs are bigger are cringy and pointless. Everton are the biggest club in the world for me, no one can convince me otherwise. My mate thinks Crewe Alexandra are the biggest club in the world based on the logic that he does not give a flying one about any other club. Rangers probably have more league trophies than Liverpool and United combined yet are now in the second tier. Some South American teams will have more fans than Liverpool and Everton combined yet they're probably not bothered to count the number. Who cares really? There's no way to measure it. We could be in the blue square conference and I'd still say we were the biggest club in England. It's a completely pointless argument.
Chelsea and Everton are different and not just in the depth of their pockets. It doesn't matter when which side won their trophies. If John Stones identifies himself as a Chelsea man then he clearly has no business being at Everton likewise vice versa.
Chelsea and Everton are different and not just in the depth of their pockets. It doesn't matter when which side won their trophies. If John Stones identifies himself as a Chelsea man then he clearly has no business being at Everton likewise vice versa.
orchard
Player Valuation: £60m
A bit like a Poodle when they get wet ?
It wouldn't matter if we had played four finals in a row, Wiz.....we would still have outnumbered them.
All those Cup Finals we played on the 80s.....we were always the biggest support.
Don't be selling yourself short there......we are the best travelling fans in England, bar none.
And no one with an ounce of grey matter would disagree with you about them being better run than we are.
In fact, it is hard to think of a club in the country which is not run better than EFC.
Except the Barcodes
But that is not a criteria for being a "bigger" club.
Mr. Patel runs his shop on the corner of my street a darn sight better than Tesco is run.....but Tesco is bigger than him.
Thus far the only two reasons anyone has put forward in support of an argument for Chelsea being a bigger club than Everton is that A) they are backed by dubious funds from Russia and B) they have more fans in Kuala Lumpar, Hong Kong and Timbuktu.
I remain unconvinced
rochdaleblue
Player Valuation: £50m
What we can't deny is the passion and hardcore support our club has. The european adventures of last year just reiterated this point again. Sorry to be going over old ground but our board since the premier league era began is what's held this club back. Had we had someone like a David dein or Daniel levy on our board to maximise our potential and a clear vision to take the club forward, then we would be a far more attractive proposition for investors. Just a small example of this was the lack of marketing in Australia (when we had Cahill) and in the US when we had arguably their two biggest names in the sport playing for us (Donovan and Howard).
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So they are more slickly marketed in the Far East than we are.
No surprise thwre, Wiz
I don't know if that would count toward the overall point scoring which compares one club's "bigness" against another.
I tend to go for the more tangible examples.
Put Everton and Chelsea in a neutral stadium anywhere in Europe.....including London.....and we will vastly outnumber them.
Just like at Wembley in '09.
What makes a big club?
Bigger crowds ?
More trophies?
Bigger income?
People bang on and on about this not just here but just about every forum in truth it's all about opinions
You can't measure the size of a club in today's PL with the size of a club in DIv 1 in say 1901 nor is a clubs history just measured in trophies that's arrogant and disreputful to supporters of clubs who turn up every week in lower leagues and indeed non league where clubs have a rich a vibrant history and believe me it takes far more devotion to watch a smaller club than it does to turn up at any PL game
It all smacks of being in the school yard .
What the hell does it matter with whose club is bigger than whose club for unless there is a standard measurement that can be applied it's all cr**
ijjysmith
Calm
Could be. But the way things are going Chelsea will overtake our 9 league titles I reckon. Will they be bigger then?
ijjysmith
Calm
Pretty much agree with every word here.
There are reasons why I believe we're not as big these days and you've highlighted a lot there.
It would look that way but as they weren't on a level playing field so to speak with most other teams then not in my eyes.
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