John Stones transfer saga

[bizzaro]

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To sell or not to sell; Everton’s all-too-familiar summer conundrum has returned with a vengeance—only this time, that destiny lies in their own hands.


It was only a matter of time before the wolves were once again scratching at the doors of Goodison Park for one of its prized assets. The only surprise behind Chelsea’s interest in John Stones has been an apparent lack of decorum in their approach. Roberto Martinez’s recent condemnation of the Premier League champions bore an eerie resemblance to those of his predecessor David Moyes just six years prior, when Manchester City were attempting to lure Joleon Lescott to the Etihad Stadium.

Everton’s erstwhile manager made all the right noises, slamming City’s attempts to undermine his authority in negotiations as “disgusting” and insisting that there was “not a chance” the versatile defender would be sold so near to the close of the transfer window. Eleven days later, Lescott joined City in a deal worth £24 million.

News earlier this week of Wayne Rooney’s impending albeit brief reappearance in a royal blue shirt reopened another transfer wound for Evertonians. The Manchester United captain’s defection still rankles, over a decade since he walked away from his boyhood club.

Like Lescott, the narrative from the Goodison hierarchy varied greatly from the eventual reality. As Rooney wowed the crowds at Euro 2004, Bill Kenwright vowed that Everton would turn down “any bid” for their home-grown prodigy, whom they valued as “a £50 million player.” His Old Trafford move accrued only half that figure.

The perception that Rooney’s sale was as a necessary evil that not only saved a cash-strapped club but also allowed them to defy the odds by securing Champions League qualification the following season is a claim which remains subject to conjecture.

Yet that need to compromise their on-field future in order to appease their financial overlords belongs to the archives of Goodison’s bad old days rather than in the present. The riches of the Premier League’s current and impending broadcasting deals have made Everton’s need to dish out the begging bowl virtually redundant.

Instances of the club beating the bursars are few and far between. Commanding £12 million from City for Jack Rodwell, a player who never fulfilled the magnanimity of his potential, was ample retribution for the Lescott saga, while Francis Jeffers’ injury problems plagued his own £10 million move to Arsenal.

Stones is unlikely to be bracketed in that same category, nor is he an isolated case in his surveillance by Everton’s domestic superiors. Martinez has spent large parts of his two years at the helm dismissing speculation and interest in players that he considers instrumental to his footballing vision.

James McCarthy, too, has been the subject of admiring glances from the likes of City and Tottenham Hotspur this summer. Last week’s declaration that Martinez would “build a team around” him should extend to Stones as much as the energetic midfielder. If Everton are to realise designs of returning to the upper echelon of the Premier League table, players like Stones should be considered its key components rather than collateral damage.

Sacrificing the highly rated England international would not be a move dictated by financial duress. Should the Blues board choose to sell to the highest bidder, it would not only cement their legacy among supporters but also signal a death knell to any semblance of ambition.

I think I said something similar in my first post.

The only thing that would make me sell would be a bid so big we could build a 55000+ stadium with it

 

[ilikecheese]

This...

http://www.umaxit.com/index.php/col...-cement-evertons-lack-of-footballing-ambition

To sell or not to sell; Everton’s all-too-familiar summer conundrum has returned with a vengeance—only this time, that destiny lies in their own hands.


It was only a matter of time before the wolves were once again scratching at the doors of Goodison Park for one of its prized assets. The only surprise behind Chelsea’s interest in John Stones has been an apparent lack of decorum in their approach. Roberto Martinez’s recent condemnation of the Premier League champions bore an eerie resemblance to those of his predecessor David Moyes just six years prior, when Manchester City were attempting to lure Joleon Lescott to the Etihad Stadium.

Everton’s erstwhile manager made all the right noises, slamming City’s attempts to undermine his authority in negotiations as “disgusting” and insisting that there was “not a chance” the versatile defender would be sold so near to the close of the transfer window. Eleven days later, Lescott joined City in a deal worth £24 million.

News earlier this week of Wayne Rooney’s impending albeit brief reappearance in a royal blue shirt reopened another transfer wound for Evertonians. The Manchester United captain’s defection still rankles, over a decade since he walked away from his boyhood club.

Like Lescott, the narrative from the Goodison hierarchy varied greatly from the eventual reality. As Rooney wowed the crowds at Euro 2004, Bill Kenwright vowed that Everton would turn down “any bid” for their home-grown prodigy, whom they valued as “a £50 million player.” His Old Trafford move accrued only half that figure.

The perception that Rooney’s sale was as a necessary evil that not only saved a cash-strapped club but also allowed them to defy the odds by securing Champions League qualification the following season is a claim which remains subject to conjecture.

Yet that need to compromise their on-field future in order to appease their financial overlords belongs to the archives of Goodison’s bad old days rather than in the present. The riches of the Premier League’s current and impending broadcasting deals have made Everton’s need to dish out the begging bowl virtually redundant.

Instances of the club beating the bursars are few and far between. Commanding £12 million from City for Jack Rodwell, a player who never fulfilled the magnanimity of his potential, was ample retribution for the Lescott saga, while Francis Jeffers’ injury problems plagued his own £10 million move to Arsenal.

Stones is unlikely to be bracketed in that same category, nor is he an isolated case in his surveillance by Everton’s domestic superiors. Martinez has spent large parts of his two years at the helm dismissing speculation and interest in players that he considers instrumental to his footballing vision.

James McCarthy, too, has been the subject of admiring glances from the likes of City and Tottenham Hotspur this summer. Last week’s declaration that Martinez would “build a team around” him should extend to Stones as much as the energetic midfielder. If Everton are to realise designs of returning to the upper echelon of the Premier League table, players like Stones should be considered its key components rather than collateral damage.

Sacrificing the highly rated England international would not be a move dictated by financial duress. Should the Blues board choose to sell to the highest bidder, it would not only cement their legacy among supporters but also signal a death knell to any semblance of ambition.

Written from a passionate fan's perspective.

Did Spurs show lack of ambition selling Bale? United selling Ronaldo? RS selling Torres or Sterling?

Everyone has a price. It's modern football and we'd be stupid to not sell if the price gets crazy.

 

[USABlue]

Written from a passionate fan's perspective.

Did Spurs show lack of ambition selling Bale? United selling Ronaldo? RS selling Torres or Sterling?

Everyone has a price. It's modern football and we'd be stupid to not sell if the price gets crazy.

Juve just sold vidal and pogba will be off for insane money since city, parca and psg all are interested. I don't think we should sell in these circumstances though.

 

[Tramps_mate]

No need to say 'Not for Sale', just put a 50 million price tag on him, or something equally outlandish. We'll see how keen they are then.

Like we did with Rooney?

 

[bizzaro]

Written from a passionate fan's perspective.

Did Spurs show lack of ambition selling Bale? United selling Ronaldo? RS selling Torres or Sterling?

Everyone has a price. It's modern football and we'd be stupid to not sell if the price gets crazy.

Pipe down. Unless they offer stadium building money - yeah?

 

[Jags..class]

Part of that is what we have been saying on here. Why isn't the club, board and manager just coming out and saying the player is not for sale at any price, end of.

Because we don't want to get dragged into a media war which allows José to spout more crap. Martinez said his piece. We have told Chelsea he not for sale and we can't say at any price because all players have a price! Silent is good.

 

[BiggyRat]

Like we did with Rooney?

Sure, but we negotiated down there. Also, there was bad blood at the time wasn't there?

Very different to the situation with Stones currently. If they've turned his head & it all goes pear shaped, then we squeeze the life out of them as best we can. At least we have a starting point in value.

 

[ilikecheese]

Pipe down. Unless they offer stadium building money - yeah?

Heading to bed here...I know it's not a popular view/perspective on here, but removing emotion it's reality.

 

[kithnou]

Heading to bed here...I know it's not a popular view/perspective on here, but removing emotion it's reality.

Goodnight John-Boy

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Part of that is what we have been saying on here. Why isn't the club, board and manager just coming out and saying the player is not for sale at any price, end of.

Because it wouldn't be true. Just like every other player on the planet he has a price and it's possible that Chelsea might arrive at it. They won't say 'never' on this one, merely no.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I think I said something similar in my first post.

The only thing that would make me sell would be a bid so big we could build a 55000+ stadium with it

Are you someone's parody account?

John was never going to spend his career at Goodison as he was always going to develop into an elite level player, and the sad reality is that we're not an elite level club

Whether it's this summer or next he'll be off, unfortunately that's how it works. We won't get 'stadium' money for him either, but we will get a British record fee for a defender.

 

[Kurt.]

So, has this rolling Stones story gathered any moss yet ?

 

[Jeff Jones]

Could be. But the way things are going Chelsea will overtake our 9 league titles I reckon. Will they be bigger then?

Yes, but there should be an asterisk next to their number.

 

[ijjysmith]

Yes, but there should be an asterisk next to their number.

I don't see what a little French cartoon character has to do with it really.

 

[Jeff Jones]

I don't see what a little French cartoon character has to do with it really.

Sorry mate, I'm not familiar with French cartoons.