roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
Not a chance.
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Not a chance.
TheFinnFan
Finners
Abra? but why? bad puplicity?
COYB
Player Valuation: £35m
lol
roydo
in memoriam - 1965-2024
The FA would not tell Chelsea how to conduct themselves. Nor anyone else. The power is with the PL clubs. Simple really.
Furey1878
Player Valuation: £70m
No probably had stick off a director up high at Chelksi as a guess!
madkiwi
Koffee please
Everyone knows it's not how big you are, it's how you use it.
Chelsea put there's up in everyone's face, even when not wanted. Poking it places they shouldn't.
We struggle to reach the heights we once did, and could do with some new underwear.
Think I should have though this analogy through more ...
Chelsea put there's up in everyone's face, even when not wanted. Poking it places they shouldn't.
We struggle to reach the heights we once did, and could do with some new underwear.
Think I should have though this analogy through more ...
CahillsCornerFlag
Player Valuation: £70m
http://www.givemesport.com/603093-e...ed-the-john-stones-situation-well?autoplay=on
Wouldn't normally post such a jarg link in here, but we've got an actual human being arguing that the whole thing is Martinez' fault, he started the war of words apparently.
Wouldn't normally post such a jarg link in here, but we've got an actual human being arguing that the whole thing is Martinez' fault, he started the war of words apparently.
Toffeelover
Player Valuation: £80m
Part of that is what we have been saying on here. Why isn't the club, board and manager just coming out and saying the player is not for sale at any price, end of.
CahillsCornerFlag
Player Valuation: £70m
I feel like that's been answered a lot too though.
Bluesnapper
Player Valuation: £8m
Before you made such a claim you should have used the search engine, I did and it proves that post of yours is a lie.
My posts mentioning Baines = 1 and NO TRANSFER MENTIONED
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/ross-barkley.39988/page-826#post-2784791
My posts mentioning Barkley = 4 and NO TRANSFER MENTIONED
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/barry-suspended-for-southampton.63451/page-2#post-2414320
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/how-do-we-score.65117/#post-2523674
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/john-stones.58931/page-134#post-2756439
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/tom-cleverley.75065/page-28#post-3496145
My posts mentioning Coleman = 2 and NO TRANSFER MENTIONED
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/barry-suspended-for-southampton.63451/page-2#post-2414320
https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/small-margins.65796/#post-2578300
sorry if repost, didn't have time to pore over the dozen pages since my last visit.
from last night's ski vs. New York Red Bulls match:
from last night's ski vs. New York Red Bulls match:
JAYTALITY
Player Valuation: £30m
That's not what he meant
kithnou
Player Valuation: £70m
This...
http://www.umaxit.com/index.php/col...-cement-evertons-lack-of-footballing-ambition
To sell or not to sell; Everton’s all-too-familiar summer conundrum has returned with a vengeance—only this time, that destiny lies in their own hands.
It was only a matter of time before the wolves were once again scratching at the doors of Goodison Park for one of its prized assets. The only surprise behind Chelsea’s interest in John Stones has been an apparent lack of decorum in their approach. Roberto Martinez’s recent condemnation of the Premier League champions bore an eerie resemblance to those of his predecessor David Moyes just six years prior, when Manchester City were attempting to lure Joleon Lescott to the Etihad Stadium.
Everton’s erstwhile manager made all the right noises, slamming City’s attempts to undermine his authority in negotiations as “disgusting” and insisting that there was “not a chance” the versatile defender would be sold so near to the close of the transfer window. Eleven days later, Lescott joined City in a deal worth £24 million.
News earlier this week of Wayne Rooney’s impending albeit brief reappearance in a royal blue shirt reopened another transfer wound for Evertonians. The Manchester United captain’s defection still rankles, over a decade since he walked away from his boyhood club.
Like Lescott, the narrative from the Goodison hierarchy varied greatly from the eventual reality. As Rooney wowed the crowds at Euro 2004, Bill Kenwright vowed that Everton would turn down “any bid” for their home-grown prodigy, whom they valued as “a £50 million player.” His Old Trafford move accrued only half that figure.
The perception that Rooney’s sale was as a necessary evil that not only saved a cash-strapped club but also allowed them to defy the odds by securing Champions League qualification the following season is a claim which remains subject to conjecture.
Yet that need to compromise their on-field future in order to appease their financial overlords belongs to the archives of Goodison’s bad old days rather than in the present. The riches of the Premier League’s current and impending broadcasting deals have made Everton’s need to dish out the begging bowl virtually redundant.
Instances of the club beating the bursars are few and far between. Commanding £12 million from City for Jack Rodwell, a player who never fulfilled the magnanimity of his potential, was ample retribution for the Lescott saga, while Francis Jeffers’ injury problems plagued his own £10 million move to Arsenal.
Stones is unlikely to be bracketed in that same category, nor is he an isolated case in his surveillance by Everton’s domestic superiors. Martinez has spent large parts of his two years at the helm dismissing speculation and interest in players that he considers instrumental to his footballing vision.
James McCarthy, too, has been the subject of admiring glances from the likes of City and Tottenham Hotspur this summer. Last week’s declaration that Martinez would “build a team around” him should extend to Stones as much as the energetic midfielder. If Everton are to realise designs of returning to the upper echelon of the Premier League table, players like Stones should be considered its key components rather than collateral damage.
Sacrificing the highly rated England international would not be a move dictated by financial duress. Should the Blues board choose to sell to the highest bidder, it would not only cement their legacy among supporters but also signal a death knell to any semblance of ambition.
http://www.umaxit.com/index.php/col...-cement-evertons-lack-of-footballing-ambition
To sell or not to sell; Everton’s all-too-familiar summer conundrum has returned with a vengeance—only this time, that destiny lies in their own hands.
It was only a matter of time before the wolves were once again scratching at the doors of Goodison Park for one of its prized assets. The only surprise behind Chelsea’s interest in John Stones has been an apparent lack of decorum in their approach. Roberto Martinez’s recent condemnation of the Premier League champions bore an eerie resemblance to those of his predecessor David Moyes just six years prior, when Manchester City were attempting to lure Joleon Lescott to the Etihad Stadium.
Everton’s erstwhile manager made all the right noises, slamming City’s attempts to undermine his authority in negotiations as “disgusting” and insisting that there was “not a chance” the versatile defender would be sold so near to the close of the transfer window. Eleven days later, Lescott joined City in a deal worth £24 million.
News earlier this week of Wayne Rooney’s impending albeit brief reappearance in a royal blue shirt reopened another transfer wound for Evertonians. The Manchester United captain’s defection still rankles, over a decade since he walked away from his boyhood club.
Like Lescott, the narrative from the Goodison hierarchy varied greatly from the eventual reality. As Rooney wowed the crowds at Euro 2004, Bill Kenwright vowed that Everton would turn down “any bid” for their home-grown prodigy, whom they valued as “a £50 million player.” His Old Trafford move accrued only half that figure.
The perception that Rooney’s sale was as a necessary evil that not only saved a cash-strapped club but also allowed them to defy the odds by securing Champions League qualification the following season is a claim which remains subject to conjecture.
Yet that need to compromise their on-field future in order to appease their financial overlords belongs to the archives of Goodison’s bad old days rather than in the present. The riches of the Premier League’s current and impending broadcasting deals have made Everton’s need to dish out the begging bowl virtually redundant.
Instances of the club beating the bursars are few and far between. Commanding £12 million from City for Jack Rodwell, a player who never fulfilled the magnanimity of his potential, was ample retribution for the Lescott saga, while Francis Jeffers’ injury problems plagued his own £10 million move to Arsenal.
Stones is unlikely to be bracketed in that same category, nor is he an isolated case in his surveillance by Everton’s domestic superiors. Martinez has spent large parts of his two years at the helm dismissing speculation and interest in players that he considers instrumental to his footballing vision.
James McCarthy, too, has been the subject of admiring glances from the likes of City and Tottenham Hotspur this summer. Last week’s declaration that Martinez would “build a team around” him should extend to Stones as much as the energetic midfielder. If Everton are to realise designs of returning to the upper echelon of the Premier League table, players like Stones should be considered its key components rather than collateral damage.
Sacrificing the highly rated England international would not be a move dictated by financial duress. Should the Blues board choose to sell to the highest bidder, it would not only cement their legacy among supporters but also signal a death knell to any semblance of ambition.
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