John Stones transfer saga

[JustOpp]

Yeah mate. Media were adamant it was going to be 48 hours, every person and source quoted it and it's wrong.

Sorry about that though.

Did someone make the e-mail timestamps of both the offer and the rejection public? Or are we going only with when that information was leaked to the media?

 

[Ashtonian]

Just want to say @Ashtonian

Despite your claims. THIRD PARTY OWNERSHIP IS ILLEGAL IN ENGLISH FOOTBALL and under FFP.

So again. The Stones and Lukaku thing is totally irrelevant.

Unlucky mate.

what the hell are you on about now? doesn't argue a point if you make random things up and type them in capital letters lol

we own lukaku but we owe Chelsea money. If I buy something from you but don't pay you straight away then the bloke down the road doesn't suddenly have ownership

 

[jinkyali]

Just for clarity.
Chelsea have leaked this.
John Percy is with them. He has told his mate Matt Law at telegraph.
Same people who leaked first . All coming from Chelsea.

I expect Everton will be fuming.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

That second bid pretty much confirms that Chelsea are just trying to get Stones to push for the move in order to keep the transfer fee down.

Do we know for certain that the second bid was legit.

 

[LAToffee]

Just for clarity.
Chelsea have leaked this.
John Percy is with them. He has told his mate Matt Law at telegraph.
Same people who leaked first . All coming from Chelsea.

I expect Everton will be fuming.

I certainly am. Crying and shaking here.

 

[Visitor22]

Just for clarity.
Chelsea have leaked this.
John Percy is with them. He has told his mate Matt Law at telegraph.
Same people who leaked first . All coming from Chelsea.

I expect Everton will be fuming.

Thought John Percy was a journo himself - why isn't he writing his own stories?

 

[LAToffee]

If, and I'm hoping it is a massive, massive if, Everton do reluctantly (?) acquiesce to the sale of John Stones, in my opinion, it has to be for a record fee, no poncing around with anything less than £40 million and ideally, a lot, lot more.

I sincerely hope he is not sold this window or season, if at all but, if he does go, it has to be entirely to the financial benefit of Everton.

Look how niggardly Chelsea's "improved" offers are though. At this rate, it will take them summer 2017 to hit 40 million.

 

[blueboy1945]

June 2004:


Wayne Rooney has emerged as one of the stars of Euro 2004 and speculation linking the 18-year-old with a move to Manchester United or Chelsea has been rife in recent days.

However, Everton chairman Bill Kenwright says he will turn down any offers for Rooney. “David Moyes and I agreed Wayne has to be a £50million player now,” said Kenwright. “I would turn down any bid for him and say: ‘Thank you very much. What else do you want to talk about?'” “We do smile about what Wayne is worth but, then again, we also talk about who’s going to be alongside him with us next season.
“We know what Wayne’s value is and our price is that he is an Everton player and we have no reason to believe that will change.


http://www.worldsoccer.com/news/everton-insist-rooney-will-stay-56032

Think Kenwright meant it at the time, but when Rooney demanded to move the situation changed.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

Chelsea are just pushing their luck, they know that we won't entertain anything below a record deal for a defender but their hoping to entice Stones into pushing through a move. Fortunately they've not taken into consideration that Stones seems very level headed and for the moment seems happy and content to do the correct thing and carry on as normal.

I'd imagine they'll let this bid fester about for another week while their media mongrels present their next phase of baiting Stones, before returning on the eve of the season with a £35m offer. A poor performance against Arsenal on Sunday may speed the process up, but it will only strengthen our hand.

 

[LinekersLegs]

Get on the sense of entitlement here!

@SpectreCFC: @SkyFootball Everton robbing Stones of a career. Martinez is cancerous to his growth.

Yeah those 38 league starts have really stunted his growth, the 8 starts that Zouma, Kalas and Ake combined got during the same period is a much better way to develop a young player's career

 

[Connor]

Thought John Percy was a journo himself - why isn't he writing his own stories?

For Chelsea, it looks better coming from Matt Law and a paper like the Telegraph.

If this is true, like.

 

[The Esk]

Yes - we have. It was 16 million immediately. Then there was two instalments of 4 million during last season. The last instalments are appearance contingent.


How can Chelsea use something as a bargaining tool when the contract is already signed for Lukaku.

They would have to try and break a contract. That would give Everton grounds to sue in court.

Utter tosh. The two things are totally separate to each other.

I'm not sure how you know the terms of the Lukaku deal as there is nothing in the public domain re the payment schedule.

Secondly virtually all commercial contracts (and particularly were credit is used and there is the prospect of additional business during the credit period) will have a clause allowing re-negotiation of terms by mutual agreement.

Re Everton's current strategy of saying nothing, assuming Stones is happy to stay as per his public statement and we are not willing to sell as per our initial response then the only people getting upset are Chelsea and Mourinho.

Hope we continue to say nothing further, we have no need to do so.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Chelsea are just pushing their luck, they know that we won't entertain anything below a record deal for a defender but their hoping to entice Stones into pushing through a move. Fortunately they've not taken into consideration that Stones seems very level headed and for the moment seems happy and content to do the correct thing and carry on as normal.

I'd imagine they'll let this bid fester about for another week while their media mongrels present their next phase of baiting Stones, before returning on the eve of the season with a £35m offer. A poor performance against Arsenal on Sunday may speed the process up, but it will only strengthen our hand.

Well put man. I can imagine Joses fume. He cant stand how good our position is.

 

[macst]

Yeah those 38 league starts have really stunted his growth, the 8 starts that Zouma, Kalas and Ake combined got during the same period is a much better way to develop a young player's career

Just checked the account. A 16-year-old Chelsea "fan" in the USA.

 

[jinkyali]

Thought John Percy was a journo himself - why isn't he writing his own stories?

God knows. But it's whats happened.