John Stones transfer saga

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davek said:
Even at £30M that'd be a massive price for a player who still has a lot of skills to acquire.

In a perfect world we'd keep him and add to the number of young players comfortable on the ball. However, because of who owns us we cant afford to turn down that kind of cash for a player at his stage of development.

The bottom line for me is that Stones is very good but hyped up beyond belief. At last we're the club getting the benefit from the media bubble surrounding the next big thing.

Let's put it this way (and I'm no massive admirer of him) but if I were given the choice of retaining Stones or Jagielka I'd go with Jagielka every single time. We'll replace Stones with a very good CB.
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for once Dave every word you said above is correct - absolutely spot on. Stones is good , potentially very good but he's a centre half. Sure you need good defenders but they do not influence a game in the way a good No.10 or a goalscorer would. If , as seems the case, BK is unwilling or can't deliver much needed player investment ( and won't give up his train set to someone that can ) then we need to fund much needed purchases with sales. £30 million + can buy 3 very decent players.
 

Blue Truth said:
There is nothing for us to gain if we put in a release clause. If he didn't have long left on his contract and wouldn't sign without one then yes, put one in like Aston Villa did with Delph, but we don't need to do that because we are in the position of power.

4 years on his contract or 5 makes very little difference. He should be greatful that is getting a new contract a year after signing a 5 year deal. We could keep him for 2 years and then sell him for big money and keep him on low wages if we wanted to.

Assuming that the completely unfounded rumour is true of course.
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But the best way to secure him staying here this summer is to increase his wage and give him an extended deal. But, the agent will want a release clause in. Almost every contract for every player in the rem has one now. They're just not all banded about.

We could set a release clause of £60mil. Hell, Bryan Ruiz just signed for Sporting and they put a £43mil release clause in his deal. I mean, he's 29 and not very good. Really, they mean nothing other than the club is giving themselves a bit of leeway in not having to sell unless somebody makes a bid that big. And, as the player would have agreed to it when signing a deal, then they'd have no right to complain and kick up a fuss.
 
Firstly I'd like Everton to keep Stones as Martinez has already stated, yet I am now more inclined to believe that this may just be rhetoric.

My growing concern is that our apparent lack of business may now hinge on whether Stones goes or not, rather than two septate issues..

As @jazzy mentioned, £30m plus (personally we should aim for £35m-£40m) can potentially get you two to three decent players.

Yet before the whole Stones saga developed we were all suggesting we need at least another two to three players: playmaker; defender; striker.

Many other clubs appear to be outlaying reasonable amounts for players this summer, while we seems to have stagnated at the sizable £4m.

Martinez is talking about two other players but are they removed from the Stones deal? Will they occur if Stones leaves or not? I don't know.

Would his potential departure change Martinez's targets? You'd hope we'd get the two in and then reinvest the Stones money on other players.

What I am trying to say is, I am worried that our transfer policy may now be in limbo... unwilling to move for players until our funds are sorted.

It would be worrying if Stones were to leave and we then only brought in another two or three players, as it would show our financial weakness.
 
banno said:
I thought Mourhino said he would back off if we said he isn't for sale. We have said it on his second bid as reported by Sky yet a 3rd bid is inevitable and according to press we are in talks with Chelsea to come to some kind of arrangement. I am confused here. He is either for sale but not at the price bid or he is not for sale which we have stated.
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Why on earth would you believe anything Mourinho says?
 

jazzy said:
for once Dave every word you said above is correct - absolutely spot on. Stones is good , potentially very good but he's a centre half. Sure you need good defenders but they do not influence a game in the way a good No.10 or a goalscorer would. If , as seems the case, BK is unwilling or can't deliver much needed player investment ( and won't give up his train set to someone that can ) then we need to fund much needed purchases with sales. £30 million + can buy 3 very decent players.
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Just need to score more than we concede!!
 
just putting it out there.

Imagine selling stones, signing 2 centre halves and a midfielder. And that was it.......

So basically did wait for the stones sale to sign our players and the board spent very little again
 
Really hope he stays. Is value,in my opinion, will only rise by this time next year and given the length of his contract we'll still be in a strong position. My concern is that he goes 'late' in this window. I just hope this stance of ours is genuine and not a 'PR' exercise to show our fans that we were strong in rejecting bid after bid but drove a hard bargain in the end. I'm no lover of our current Board, but uf Stones is playing for us v Chelsea on 12 September I'll give our Board due credit.
 

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