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John Stones

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Zatara said:
Do your workmates or business associates not influence your future? Ive turned down opportunities and accepted others due to the culture and the colleagues.

Football is a bit different of course but when i was in teams i did choose who to play for based on who i would be playing with...

Just throwing it out there that this may influence his career path.
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Whoever he plays with will not alter his career path, he will play for whichever team we accept a bid from.
 
MoutsGoat said:
Whoever we accept a bid from.

Only the "best" could afford him.
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Basically any of them could turn his head is what you are saying. I probably agree but not this summer and frankly after seeing him at the U21s or even in the Europa League games it's clear defensively he's not the finished product.

We should cool the hype on him. We don't want to do the same thing with him as Barkley. He will make it but he's at least a year probably 2 or 3 from starting for the likes of Chelsea or City.
 
I can't seem him leaving for another club in a better position than us for his development. If he goes to United, City or Chelsea he isn't going to play regularly which will stall his development and when he does play everything he makes a mistake until scrutinised by the press like mad and he'll be out the side again. With us he'll play every week and when he does make a mistake we're unlikely to go mental about it as it's given he'll make mistakes at his age.
 

meagher94 said:
I don't know when the odds changed but last week Skybet had it at 1/5 odds on that Stones would be at Everton at the end of the window. It's now 11/10 that he stays with us and 10/11 that he goes to Chelsea.

Bookies odds generally don't mean much but I just don't like the fact they've changed that much within in a week. On the other hand, I'd be tempted to lump on that at 11/10 as I really don't see us selling him in this window.
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He's actually less likely to stay than Mirallas (according to the odds)
 
Adversus said:
Basically any of them could turn his head is what you are saying. I probably agree but not this summer and frankly after seeing him at the U21s or even in the Europa League games it's clear defensively he's not the finished product.

We should cool the hype on him. We don't want to do the same thing with him as Barkley. He will make it but he's at least a year probably 2 or 3 from starting for the likes of Chelsea or City.
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Gary Cahill and John Terry start for Chelsea. Kompany and Mangala for City. This is the same imperious Terry that allowed a goal keepers kick to bounce in between him against Germany in 2010 on his way to conceding 4 goals. Never gets mentioned that though does it. The same Cahill who was just as much to blame for our World Cup exit as the much derided Jagielka. Then there's Kompany, embarrassed annually in the champions league and the infamous air kick v Liverpool, then Mangala who looks awful. Stones had a poor game the other night but he's already in the same bracket as all these players and will be better than all of them. He could start for City of Chelsea now. If we had any ambition though we wouldn't be talking about selling of potentially England's best player since a young Rooney.
 
Saint Domingo said:
Gary Cahill and John Terry start for Chelsea. Kompany and Mangala for City. This is the same imperious Terry that allowed a goal keepers kick to bounce in between him against Germany in 2010 on his way to conceding 4 goals. Never gets mentioned that though does it. The same Cahill who was just as much to blame for our World Cup exit as the much derided Jagielka. Then there's Kompany, embarrassed annually in the champions league and the infamous air kick v Liverpool, then Mangala who looks awful. Stones had a poor game the other night but he's already in the same bracket as all these players and will be better than all of them. He could start for City of Chelsea now. If we had any ambition though we wouldn't be talking about selling of potentially England's best player since a young Rooney.
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That's the difference with defensive players. Strikers sky shots and miskick all the time but it doesn't mean the team concedes a goal. When a defender or a keeper screw up it costs you big time. If a defender had been as bad at defending as Lukaku was at finishing in that game against Leicester last season for example they'd be a laughing stock.
 

Saint Domingo said:
Gary Cahill and John Terry start for Chelsea. Kompany and Mangala for City. This is the same imperious Terry that allowed a goal keepers kick to bounce in between him against Germany in 2010 on his way to conceding 4 goals. Never gets mentioned that though does it. The same Cahill who was just as much to blame for our World Cup exit as the much derided Jagielka. Then there's Kompany, embarrassed annually in the champions league and the infamous air kick v Liverpool, then Mangala who looks awful. Stones had a poor game the other night but he's already in the same bracket as all these players and will be better than all of them. He could start for City of Chelsea now. If we had any ambition though we wouldn't be talking about selling of potentially England's best player since a young Rooney.
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Every player has had bad games. Stones has had them before. The difference is that Terry has had years of performing against the very best at the very highest level.

Stones hasn't. It's simply not true to say he would walk on to any of their teams. I think we forget the step up. There's some players that look like stars for their old clubs and then get found out and I'm definitely not saying that Stones is one but just to cool the hype.
 
Kids class Ronaldo & Messi would look shyte playing under the England mantra, they kick all the hope out of them in the training camps with all the negative shyte they're asked to do, by time they get round to employing their negative formation they've been practicing to try and contain teams, they believe they're not good enough and that's the way they play, for years the England manager as taken top class players who've been winning things at club level and turned the into losers.
 

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