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John Stones

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"Rio Ferdinand believes that Everton fans have got our younger players “in a nervous state” at the moment - and says he was grateful to be brought up at West Ham where the fans and staff allowed for him making errors.

I can see the point Rio Ferdinand was making.

But when he was making mistakes at West Ham he was 17 or 18 years old.

By the time he was the age John Stones or Ross Barkley are now, he had moved to Leeds United."

Michael Ball the defensive defender.
 
They want us to be happy to be losing games for the sake of Stones development.....but then criticism comes because of out form and league position...

We cant win.
 

Khalekan said:
It sure is.

What he writes about Ross Barkley is very thought provoking.

And it has me edging ever closer to the plotter's position I'm afraid.
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For me Khal, it's time for the Everton board to get off the pot and p155... El Bob has a terrific squad that has morphed/is rapidly morphing into Wigan under his managership.

If it's a choice between JS/RB and RL and maybe SC as well staying and the manager going, then the club better act decisively and fast, cos come the summer, you can bet ya boots that their agents will be having them away to sunnier or at least much better paid climes than we can provide.?

There are some very high profile and eminently qualified managers currently or very, very soon to be available and people may well suggest it's pie-in-the-sky to suggest Mourinho or Gaurdiola, but for heavens sake why can't/shouldn't Everton approach them?

The contact should be along the lines of... "Anyone can spend gazillions at Man City, Chelski or Man U, why not take control of our talented squad and really, really, really prove what a top drawer coach/manager you are. Win the Premiership with Everton on the best budget we can afford and in the face of that level of financial competition and you'll achieve footballing immortality.

Well Jose/Pep... Have you got the balls for a challenge like that rather than the cosy, comfy cheque-book managership you'll be offered at those other clubs ??"
 
BlockHead said:
For me Khal, it's time for the Everton board to get off the pot and p155... El Bob has a terrific squad that has morphed/is rapidly morphing into Wigan under his managership.

If it's a choice between JS/RB and RL and maybe SC as well staying and the manager going, then the club better act decisively and fast, cos come the summer, you can bet ya boots that their agents will be having them away to sunnier or at least much better paid climes than we can provide.?

There are some very high profile and eminently qualified managers currently or very, very soon to be available and people may well suggest it's pie-in-the-sky to suggest Mourinho or Gaurdiola, but for heavens sake why can't/shouldn't Everton approach them?

The contact should be along the lines of... "Anyone can spend gazillions at Man City, Chelski or Man U, why not take control of our talented squad and really, really, really prove what a top drawer coach/manager you are. Win the Premiership with Everton on the best budget we can afford and in the face of that level of financial competition and you'll achieve footballing immortality.

Well Jose/Pep... Have you got the balls for a challenge like that rather than the cosy, comfy cheque-book managership you'll be offered at those other clubs ??"
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And their response will be something along the lines of. "Sorry, I'm off to United/City".
 
Polish_Blue_Army said:
"Rio Ferdinand believes that Everton fans have got our younger players “in a nervous state” at the moment - and says he was grateful to be brought up at West Ham where the fans and staff allowed for him making errors.

I can see the point Rio Ferdinand was making.

But when he was making mistakes at West Ham he was 17 or 18 years old.

By the time he was the age John Stones or Ross Barkley are now, he had moved to Leeds United."

Michael Ball the defensive defender.
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Ferdinand is a massive bellend

Remember the terrible attempt at a prank show he did where he just jumped about and shouted "Ahh you got MERKED!"

I think that actually happened, or have I imagined that?
 

arbok said:
John Stones was absolutely awful and played his worst game in an Everton shirt on the weekend.

There was one pass in the second half where he was near the right back position in the opposition's half and he passed it to absolutely nobody and the Everton move broke down. There wasn't an Everton player within 15m of his pass.

Secondly the Collymore article is spot on http://betting.boylesports.com/football/premier-league/toffees-youngsters-becoming-unstuck-Martinez One or two mistakes is not the end of the world, but something should be done to make sure it doesn't become a habit. The Goals Against column clearly suggest that nothing is being done. If Martinez is a really good manager, he should have put things right, but it increasingly looks like he'll stick to his strategy and 'philosophy' come hell or high water. That's just stupid in my opinion.

Thirdly, John Stones' positioning on counters have been getting worse and worse. Perhaps he is overconfident that he has it covered?
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Why don't you mention the inch-perfect pass he made to Coleman from which Coleman should have scored.

He had a poor game but he wasn't as bad as it's been made out to be, and certainly didn't justify (a section) of the crowd's abuse/anger at the time.
 
MoutsGoat said:
Havent got a nice word to say about Collymore, but he hits the nail bang on the head with every word there.
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Well not every word, as Stones rarely ever goes back to Howard unless he absolutely has to.

In that article Collymore claims that lots of Evertonians say he goes back to Howard all the time. Don''t know what games they're watching.

Also, this is why we get this reputation in the media of goals being conceded because we play it out from the back. I'd be willing to wager, that (and this is off the top of my head) we have only conceded three goals that I can think of this season because we tried to play it out from the back - and that is against Swansea (when it came mostly because Howard is genuine aids at football), against Arsenal where we conceded a free-kick deep in our half and they scored (again, Howard at fault for the goal itself) and West Brom, where Mori and Jags messed up and Berahino got in (and again, Howard should have done better).

The rest have been set-pieces or just sloppy defending. Martinez' biggest flaw is not realising how incompetent Howard is, and that if you want to play it from the back, the defenders need to be able to trust their keeper. It's obvious ours don't.
 
BlockHead said:
For me Khal, it's time for the Everton board to get off the pot and p155... El Bob has a terrific squad that has morphed/is rapidly morphing into Wigan under his managership.

If it's a choice between JS/RB and RL and maybe SC as well staying and the manager going, then the club better act decisively and fast, cos come the summer, you can bet ya boots that their agents will be having them away to sunnier or at least much better paid climes than we can provide.?

There are some very high profile and eminently qualified managers currently or very, very soon to be available and people may well suggest it's pie-in-the-sky to suggest Mourinho or Gaurdiola, but for heavens sake why can't/shouldn't Everton approach them?

The contact should be along the lines of... "Anyone can spend gazillions at Man City, Chelski or Man U, why not take control of our talented squad and really, really, really prove what a top drawer coach/manager you are. Win the Premiership with Everton on the best budget we can afford and in the face of that level of financial competition and you'll achieve footballing immortality.

Well Jose/Pep... Have you got the balls for a challenge like that rather than the cosy, comfy cheque-book managership you'll be offered at those other clubs ??"
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I'll have some of what you're having please mate
 

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