John Textor

[Dublin blue 75]

This is the whole point of the criticism of Barrett-Baxendale and the "ALL" hospitality scheme

She under spec and under capacity the hospitality at BMD at only 5000

The sales have already proven this was too small. It was actively reduced during build by Baxendale et al.

I know people who run their own companies who inquired and couldn't get hospitality places. That means we are losing revenues we should be earning

The Professor eh. The best in the business Bill said. Events and facts indicate otherwise.

 

[Damo_1878]

The Professor eh. The best in the business Bill said. Events and facts indicate otherwise.

Honestly mate. It makes you despair at times

I want EFC to be earning lots of money - without (as Aston Villa seem to be doing, as announced today) - ripping off individual fans

But we all need to keep things realistic about how much extra money will be brought in

If we had a 62888 capacity and double hospitality capacity to 10,000, then "ForeverBlue" may have been right about the figures he was quoting. But not on BMD's current specs!

Also proof that people inquired to get hospitality places but it sold out

Hospitality capacity was reduced in size during building

 

[AndyRJ]

5000 has already sold out (all meal hospitality has anyway, months ago) showing it was too small

I don't disagre that it was too small but it's not technically all sold out, a chunk of it is held back to be sold on a match by match basis. The tunnel club for example is apparently solely for sale like this, no season ticket holders.

Still should have been twice the size though.

 

[AndyRJ]

Honestly mate. It makes you despair at times

I want EFC to be earning lots of money - without (as Aston Villa seem to be doing, as announced today) - ripping off individual fans

But we all need to keep things realistic about how much extra money will be brought in

If we had a 62888 capacity and double hospitality capacity to 10,000, then "ForeverBlue" may have been right about the figures he was quoting. But not on BMD's current specs!

Also proof that people inquired to get hospitality places but it sold out

Hospitality capacity was reduced in size during building

Big waiting list for that Loge Seating apparently. Sold out instantly. Not sure how many there are but the area doesn't look particularly big so can't be many.

 

[PeregrineT]

Which means you think BMD will take in between £66 million to £86 million a season (i.e. which is over and above GP's revenue of ca. £16 million per season)

52,888 and an average ticket price per seat of £750 per seat is only £39,666,000 a season

52,888 and an average ticket price per seat of £1000 per seat is only £52,888,000 a season

If we do more detailed calculations

5000 hospitality at £3000 a season, = £15,000,000
47888 and an average ticket price per seat of £750 per seat = £35,916,000

Total = £50,916,000 per season

You're well short of what you're claiming there. Well short. By at least 25% to 50%

Fantasy land from @ForeverBlue92

With this reasoning Im thankful you didnt end up owning the club after all.

Im sorry, but we are going to write down some math and then conveniently forget about sponsorships, food and drink, merchandise, extra events and more?

You've already outlined 50m per season in ticket sales. Throw in million in food/drink increases. We already have one sponsorship from castore for 13m more than last year(and there will be more). Then you have other events, which bring in 1-5m per night for Tottenham for example. Do 10 nights a year of that and you have another 10m minimum.

Ticket sales: 50m
Castore sponsorship: 13m
Events: 10m
Food/drink:?
Already thats 73m + whatever increases in food/drink/merchandise/other sponsorships.

 

[OnlyTheBestIsGoodEnough]

With this reasoning Im thankful you didnt end up owning the club after all.

Im sorry, but we are going to write down some math and then conveniently forget about sponsorships, food and drink, merchandise, extra events and more?

You've already outlined 50m per season in ticket sales. Throw in million in food/drink increases. We already have one sponsorship from castore for 13m more than last year(and there will be more). Then you have other events, which bring in 1-5m per night for Tottenham for example. Do 10 nights a year of that and you have another 10m minimum.

Ticket sales: 50m
Castore sponsorship: 13m
Events: 10m
Food/drink:?
Already thats 73m + whatever increases in food/drink/merchandise/other sponsorships.

Not to mention the Stadium sponsorship however much that will be per year

 

[catcherintherye]

Everton will not get 100% of the revenues from non-matchday events

You're over stating revenues massively because it suits your imaginary view of the financial situation post move to BMD

The capacity of 52,888 is too small to raise revenues to the size you're claiming

Also you keep going on about the "catering deal" and have no idea what this "ALL" thing was all about.

They could well further increase tickets costs though, say model 1000 per seat and 4k per box.

Let's say 3 events EFC received 5m. And let's say people stay around the ground more before and after, and spend say £10.00 per person more.

The events is 15m more. The spend figure is around 12m more. That gets you from your 51m to 78m.

That's before the 20m catering contract and other sponsor uplifts. Like it could be worth a lot more, but we need the people to be able to do it and a new board.

Is strongly urge new owners look at 5k of semi premium seatings, to be able to sell at a higher rate. Given the location, it's very doable, as is keeping people near the ground spending for longer.

 

[catcherintherye]

With this reasoning Im thankful you didnt end up owning the club after all.

Im sorry, but we are going to write down some math and then conveniently forget about sponsorships, food and drink, merchandise, extra events and more?

You've already outlined 50m per season in ticket sales. Throw in million in food/drink increases. We already have one sponsorship from castore for 13m more than last year(and there will be more). Then you have other events, which bring in 1-5m per night for Tottenham for example. Do 10 nights a year of that and you have another 10m minimum.

Ticket sales: 50m
Castore sponsorship: 13m
Events: 10m
Food/drink:?
Already thats 73m + whatever increases in food/drink/merchandise/other sponsorships.

And events. Whatever Liverpool got for Anfield, just add 50%. I understand there can be 6 events, but even modelled on 3, it's still substantial revenue.

 

[BullensRoad]

Ahh the usual forum clown has started again.

 

[Damo_1878]

They could well further increase tickets costs though, say model 1000 per seat and 4k per box.

Let's say 3 events EFC received 5m. And let's say people stay around the ground more before and after, and spend say £10.00 per person more.

The events is 15m more. The spend figure is around 12m more. That gets you from your 51m to 78m.

That's before the 20m catering contract and other sponsor uplifts. Like it could be worth a lot more, but we need the people to be able to do it and a new board.

Is strongly urge new owners look at 5k of semi premium seatings, to be able to sell at a higher rate. Given the location, it's very doable, as is keeping people near the ground spending for longer.

They've already removed that. Baxendale reduced the capacity down from 10,000 to 7500 to then 5000

The stadium should have been larger at the outset. Full stop.

Ahh the usual forum clown has started again.

Can't dispute the facts though can you?

 

[Damo_1878]

With this reasoning Im thankful you didnt end up owning the club after all.

Im sorry, but we are going to write down some math and then conveniently forget about sponsorships, food and drink, merchandise, extra events and more?

You've already outlined 50m per season in ticket sales. Throw in million in food/drink increases. We already have one sponsorship from castore for 13m more than last year(and there will be more). Then you have other events, which bring in 1-5m per night for Tottenham for example. Do 10 nights a year of that and you have another 10m minimum.

Ticket sales: 50m
Castore sponsorship: 13m
Events: 10m
Food/drink:?
Already thats 73m + whatever increases in food/drink/merchandise/other sponsorships.

Everton will not get 100% of any non-football event revenues.

You're just throwing figures around there. Without any understanding of where the money comes from.

I showed you what the matchday revenues would be on a average seat price basis.

Just thinking you can lump on millions in other revenues is just nonsense.

 

[Frenk]

It’s another I guess we will have to wait and see because in truth nobody on here knows. It’s all guess work.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Hurry up Text.

 

[jamieni]

It’s another I guess we will have to wait and see because in truth nobody on here knows. It’s all guess work.

Anybody who actually knows what’s going on presumably has the good sense not to be on these forums

 

[Woolverhampton_Blue]

Hurry up Text.

We’re stuck in this death spiral until a new owner comes in and steers us back on course.