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2018/19 Jordan Pickford

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BlueToff said:
Exactly.

Regardless of the mistake, it hits the crossbar twice, yet somehow stays in play and falls right on Origi's head.
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It is purely an error in judgement. To start with, that volley from Van Dijk has made it so awkward. He has to know where his goal is and I think that is where he got a bit lost. He must've thought the bar was further away and when he has gone to reach for it his wrist kind of goes around the bar and somehow the ball gets clawed back, bounces on the bar and then perfectly for Origi. If he left that and it went in he'd be getting the same as he is now. Its just a poor judgement call that is all.
 
BlueToff said:
Really, taking a chance was the best thing to do. What Pickford did wrong was misjudge it.

But, like you say, it's understandable to then try and either help it on it's way, or try and take it in.

I think he's initially thought it might drop below the bar, then has realised that it won't, and he's tried to tip it over.

The result is an almighty cock up.
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Again he cocked it up , no doubt can be argued .

On the taking a chance it’s easy now because he’s made a mess of it and it seems obvious. The point I was agreeing with the poster is if in doubt the keeper will never take a chance it’ll go over , you don’t see it . That’s why on replays you see it clearly going wide before a corner , it’s what they’re taught or certainly used to be . Obviously he made a mistake and a bad one but it doesn’t change that I understand why he was wasn’t just leaving it , not that he did what he did with it though .

If that makes any kind of sense ?
 

Harryflashman said:
Again he cocked it up , no doubt can be argued .

On the taking a chance it’s easy now because he’s made a mess of it and it seems obvious. The point I was agreeing with the poster is if in doubt the keeper will never take a chance it’ll go over , you don’t see it . That’s why on replays you see it clearly going wide before a corner , it’s what they’re taught or certainly used to be . Obviously he made a mistake and a bad one but it doesn’t change that I understand why he was wasn’t just leaving it , not that he did what he did with it though .

If that makes any kind of sense ?
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Haha mate I know you were agreeing I was the poster ;)

Just talking it through. It's a cock up, but like you say the logic was clearly there from Pickford. It's got f all to do with being arrogant, but it is a terrible mistake.
 
nsno-chris said:
Because he changed the natural flight of the ball by trying to catch it. He leaves it and hits the bar and trickles on the the roof of the net
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Even with the touch he gets it's mental that the ball comes back in play. It hits the bar again, perfectly dead on, and could have still trickled onto the roof of the net.

We had the same instance down the other end in the first half almost. Alisson saves from Gomes, it hits Gomes and is going in, but Joe Gomez somehow gets there and then, even though the ball hits Gylfi who is level with the post, it goes out.

That's pure fortune.
 
BlueToff said:
That's all well and good but I don't think his mistake yesterday had anything to do with confidence or arrogance. It wasn't like his kick v West Ham, for example.

It was a looping, spinning ball that he misjudged. It's a clanger, and there's no excuse, but in reality what we actually needed him to be there was his usual confident self. He second-guessed himself and look what happened. Had he been confident, he'd have let it hit the bar and bounce out. But he knew the magnitude of the situation and tried to compensate, and got it wrong.
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Actually, the confidence and arrogance reference I made wasn't relating to the cock-up. Id already said from the off that all goalies make them....and hes a very good goalie. I meant that he should learn the difference between the two regarding his attitude and remarks post cock up to become a great Goalie.
 
BlueToff said:
Haha mate I know you were agreeing I was the poster ;)

Just talking it through. It's a cock up, but like you say the logic was clearly there from Pickford. It's got f all to do with being arrogant, but it is a terrible mistake.
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lol

Sorry mate am hung over and was queuing in the bank , plus I’m a bit stupid .
 

Just move on lads.

This is part of the problem, to many people allow negative thoughts to fester, they take them to the next match, they take them to the next season.

Our Keeper messed up, we lost, hes a very able Keeper, he keeps us in plenty of games, hes confident which comes across as arrogance, he apologised for his error, so just move on.

We werent finishing higher than 6th this season anyway, it really doesnt matter, just put it behind us and move on to the next game.

I realise its a forum, so im not saying people cant talk about it, but theres no need to dig Pickford out.
 

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