Kenwright leaving rumour

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Stephenlloyd said:
Funny after reading your posts for the last few months, I wouldn’t have had you down as a happy clapper

And what do you mean by the stadium? Seen as bill has ballsed up 3 stadium moves and wanted to move us out the city.
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Stephen. I consider myself a supporter of Everton FC. I have my own opinions on the club and the people who run it. I don't see why I should have to agree with the opinions of a certain group of posters on here and if that makes me a happy clapper(whatever that is) so be it.
I think this forum runs the risk of people being bullied into agreeing with an opinion because there may be an attempt to ridicule them if they don't and I THINK that doesn't work with me.
I have been expressing an opinion about our current manager which doesn't seem popular(I know you have specifically commented on it a few times) but it is a forum , I have a right to say what I feel and others have a right to comment on it.

Before I came to this forum several years ago I posted on Bluekipper and could see it's demise coming down the tracks.
When I came on here first what I was most impressed with was the tolerance to different opinions but unfortunately that certainly has slipped away in recent times.. much to my regret.

I come on here more for news than opinions as I find this forum having becoming very radical and intolerant , not accurately reflecting the majority of supporters viewpoints. But, I support the club , have done since about 1970, long before many on here were born and have followed owners, managers and players diligently since then , and I am a new hound and crave the stories and gossip that you sometimes glean on here.

I love the transfer gossip, the gossip about the new stadium and other bits and pieces you sometimes get on here.
For the record.

I don't have the problem with Sam Allyrdyce that others have, I think he has done what he was asked to do and if he stays next season I believe we will have solid season. I don't believe he is the man to bring us forward, but when he is replaced I want it to be with a manager that can make us great. I cannot count the number of managers I have seen come and go. I want the next one to make a statement to the world of football and it seems that we now are paying the money to make that happen. I don't want a manager anymore that may be great but will probably be useless.

Bill Kenwright . I have always believed he did a good job while in charge after taking over a basket case of a club ... but, he never had the finances to ever ever put us in a place where we could be a top team... he did however get the club to a position where we could get an owner who has wealth and wealthy contacts. Bill could never afford a stadium and depended on others to provide it and was not able to do so. Certainly, he made mistakes.. most people do.

Moshiri , I hope he has learned that in football just throwing money at a problem doesn't always solve it. I think he is ambitious and wants to make the club great.. and make pots of money for himself. We need a new stadium, we need the right manager and without those it will just be so much more of what I have seen in so many years s a supporter.
 

blueblue said:
Stephen. I consider myself a supporter of Everton FC. I have my own opinions on the club and the people who run it. I don't see why I should have to agree with the opinions of a certain group of posters on here and if that makes me a happy clapper(whatever that is) so be it.
I think this forum runs the risk of people being bullied into agreeing with an opinion because there may be an attempt to ridicule them if they don't and I THINK that doesn't work with me.
I have been expressing an opinion about our current manager which doesn't seem popular(I know you have specifically commented on it a few times) but it is a forum , I have a right to say what I feel and others have a right to comment on it.

Before I came to this forum several years ago I posted on Bluekipper and could see it's demise coming down the tracks.
When I came on here first what I was most impressed with was the tolerance to different opinions but unfortunately that certainly has slipped away in recent times.. much to my regret.

I come on here more for news than opinions as I find this forum having becoming very radical and intolerant , not accurately reflecting the majority of supporters viewpoints. But, I support the club , have done since about 1970, long before many on here were born and have followed owners, managers and players diligently since then , and I am a new hound and crave the stories and gossip that you sometimes glean on here.

I love the transfer gossip, the gossip about the new stadium and other bits and pieces you sometimes get on here.
For the record.

I don't have the problem with Sam Allyrdyce that others have, I think he has done what he was asked to do and if he stays next season I believe we will have solid season. I don't believe he is the man to bring us forward, but when he is replaced I want it to be with a manager that can make us great. I cannot count the number of managers I have seen come and go. I want the next one to make a statement to the world of football and it seems that we now are paying the money to make that happen. I don't want a manager anymore that may be great but will probably be useless.

Bill Kenwright . I have always believed he did a good job while in charge after taking over a basket case of a club ... but, he never had the finances to ever ever put us in a place where we could be a top team... he did however get the club to a position where we could get an owner who has wealth and wealthy contacts. Bill could never afford a stadium and depended on others to provide it and was not able to do so. Certainly, he made mistakes.. most people do.

Moshiri , I hope he has learned that in football just throwing money at a problem doesn't always solve it. I think he is ambitious and wants to make the club great.. and make pots of money for himself. We need a new stadium, we need the right manager and without those it will just be so much more of what I have seen in so many years s a supporter.
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That's a very good post mate and I empathise with you to a large degree.

You and I have disagreed on a number of occasions, probably mainly relating to our views on our present manager, but I would like to think that our discussions are, on the whole, amicable.

I just want to pick you up on your point that, the views in here have become very radical and not accurately reflecting the majority of supporters viewpoints. I just wondered what information or evidence you have to support this statement. I can only go from people I know personally and from the views of other Everton fan forums, and the views on here are pretty much in line with the feelings of fans generally.
 
neil999 said:
I assume you meant him getting called up for the cameroon national team?
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Correct Neil

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Barnfred 55 said:
That's a very good post mate and I empathise with you to a large degree.

You and I have disagreed on a number of occasions, probably mainly relating to our views on our present manager, but I would like to think that our discussions are, on the whole, amicable.

I just want to pick you up on your point that, the views in here have become very radical and not accurately reflecting the majority of supporters viewpoints. I just wondered what information or evidence you have to support this statement. I can only go from people I know personally and from the views of other Everton fan forums, and the views on here are pretty much in line with the feelings of fans generally.
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No problem with you whatsoever, there would be no fun without a little cut and thrust.

I use Goodison as the barometer. The ground is packed with 40,000 Evertonians and I think the reaction on matchday reflects the true feelings of the Everton fan base. I really have not seen or heard anything at the ground that tells me there is wide spread unrest but I think next Saturday will tell us all a lot about how supporters really feel.

I think that if Sam were leaving it would be announced before Saturday to remove any risk of a hostile reception and that risk is there.
 
blueblue said:
No problem with you whatsoever, there would be no fun without a little cut and thrust.

I use Goodison as the barometer. The ground is packed with 40,000 Evertonians and I think the reaction on matchday reflects the true feelings of the Everton fan base. I really have not seen or heard anything at the ground that tells me there is wide spread unrest but I think next Saturday will tell us all a lot about how supporters really feel.

I think that if Sam were leaving it would be announced before Saturday to remove any risk of a hostile reception and that risk is there.
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Not sure where you sit pal but from my seat its all I hear is unrest which has forced me to stop going for while as its doing my health damage!!

Im sure many on here would agree with me
 
blueblue said:
Stephen. I consider myself a supporter of Everton FC. I have my own opinions on the club and the people who run it. I don't see why I should have to agree with the opinions of a certain group of posters on here and if that makes me a happy clapper(whatever that is) so be it.
I think this forum runs the risk of people being bullied into agreeing with an opinion because there may be an attempt to ridicule them if they don't and I THINK that doesn't work with me.
I have been expressing an opinion about our current manager which doesn't seem popular(I know you have specifically commented on it a few times) but it is a forum , I have a right to say what I feel and others have a right to comment on it.

Before I came to this forum several years ago I posted on Bluekipper and could see it's demise coming down the tracks.
When I came on here first what I was most impressed with was the tolerance to different opinions but unfortunately that certainly has slipped away in recent times.. much to my regret.

I come on here more for news than opinions as I find this forum having becoming very radical and intolerant , not accurately reflecting the majority of supporters viewpoints. But, I support the club , have done since about 1970, long before many on here were born and have followed owners, managers and players diligently since then , and I am a new hound and crave the stories and gossip that you sometimes glean on here.

I love the transfer gossip, the gossip about the new stadium and other bits and pieces you sometimes get on here.
For the record.

I don't have the problem with Sam Allyrdyce that others have, I think he has done what he was asked to do and if he stays next season I believe we will have solid season. I don't believe he is the man to bring us forward, but when he is replaced I want it to be with a manager that can make us great. I cannot count the number of managers I have seen come and go. I want the next one to make a statement to the world of football and it seems that we now are paying the money to make that happen. I don't want a manager anymore that may be great but will probably be useless.

Bill Kenwright . I have always believed he did a good job while in charge after taking over a basket case of a club ... but, he never had the finances to ever ever put us in a place where we could be a top team... he did however get the club to a position where we could get an owner who has wealth and wealthy contacts. Bill could never afford a stadium and depended on others to provide it and was not able to do so. Certainly, he made mistakes.. most people do.

Moshiri , I hope he has learned that in football just throwing money at a problem doesn't always solve it. I think he is ambitious and wants to make the club great.. and make pots of money for himself. We need a new stadium, we need the right manager and without those it will just be so much more of what I have seen in so many years s a supporter.
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Well said Sir, we all have minds, we all have opinions, i disagree with much of what is said on here, and wholeheartedly agree with the rest. That is the point of a public forum, for people to air similar (or entirely opposing) views.

What i have found is that there are some people, with very rigid views, they are extremely vocal about their opinions and can be very ‘forthright’ in calling out those whose views oppose theirs. However, i just seee this as passion, and whilst that passion could be expressed in a slightly more friendly way, it is passion for the club I support all the same. The best response to those who get overheated on here is to ignore them or, respond in a calm, measured and friendly way (as you did) because that invariably cools hot heads and settles the forum down. Whatever happens, do not leave, any foum requires juxtaposed views, and that is why many (even his harshest critics) were pleased when Davek returned!
 

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