Kevin Mirallas

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Ok lets do it your way check out the STATS on whoscored?com Kev average score 6.72 Kone 6.74 and Cleverly 7.30 see even a techno phob like me can pull the stats out of a hat when it suits
LOL. What's a whoscored?com score - show me where the league records them and how they affect the clubs position in the league table. What's that? They don't? They're actually nothing more than dream team scores? Surely not.

Why are you comparing the stats of BARRY a defensive midfielder to that of KEV?
Because they are both Everton players. They both have a couple of red cards, which you intimated are a sure sign that a player is selfish and petulant. Now you appear to be changing your tune and saying that red cards mean you're selfish and petulant if you happen to be a winger. Compelling argument.

Mirallas has run his course, Barry is a defensive midfielder whose job requires him to put himself about which obviusly attracts cards, Kev is a striker whose job it is to score goals remind me again his stats this season,you have once again zeroed in on his 2 assists at Villa and one goal that is all he has done this season Barry brings something to the table but maybe we should discuss that under the BARRY thread, This is about Kev, he is done, he is out of the door at the end of the season and with a bit of luck we might get a small fee for him.
4 goals and 4 assists this season, in 912 minutes. Cleverley, with his shiny 7.30 "whoscored?com" rating, has 1 goal and 5 assists in 1665 minutes. Kone, your other option on the left, has 7 goals and 3 assists in 1638 minutes. Thank goodness Martinez has left Mirallas to rot on the bench in favour of these more talented, "team players". :coffee:

Maybe we could have a should Kev stay or go vote but we all know what that STAT will show.
Yet you didn't make the poll.

You dislike him, that's cool. But you are going over the top in suggesting that we should get rid without finding a replacement first, because he is still better than every other option we have on the left at this point. The proof of this is that he is broadly on a par production-wise with others who play the same position, despite getting 40% less game time than them.

Amazing how a red card can make people lose their minds totally.
 
LOL. What's a whoscored?com score - show me where the league records them and how they affect the clubs position in the league table. What's that? They don't? They're actually nothing more than dream team scores? Surely not.


Because they are both Everton players. They both have a couple of red cards, which you intimated are a sure sign that a player is selfish and petulant. Now you appear to be changing your tune and saying that red cards mean you're selfish and petulant if you happen to be a winger. Compelling argument.


4 goals and 4 assists this season, in 912 minutes. Cleverley, with his shiny 7.30 "whoscored?com" rating, has 1 goal and 5 assists in 1665 minutes. Kone, your other option on the left, has 7 goals and 3 assists in 1638 minutes. Thank goodness Martinez has left Mirallas to rot on the bench in favour of these more talented, "team players". :coffee:


Yet you didn't make the poll.

You dislike him, that's cool. But you are going over the top in suggesting that we should get rid without finding a replacement first, because he is still better than every other option we have on the left at this point. The proof of this is that he is broadly on a par production-wise with others who play the same position, despite getting 40% less game time than them.

Amazing how a red card can make people lose their minds totally.

oh dear there only seems to be one person losing their mind here
 
Tree you're like a dog with a bone, where at any point have I mentioned about Kone or nuts being able replacements for Kev?
I don't even think that is his best position for us when he is playing.
You are obviously a stat man and stats can be brought out then put away again to sway arguments. Well I'm a fact man, Kev is not a team player he is a petulant individual, not so long back he was wanting away and guess what? nobody wanted him, we were then daft enough to give him aother lucrative contract.
AGAIN I say I loved him when he first came here but he has not kicked a decent ball for us in the last 12 months, you being a stat man should be able to give us his ratio of yellows and reds he has accrued to appearances made.

Tell me what are these 'spurious amatuer interpretations of attitude' oh yes you have answered that yourself in the last paragraph Fact= he is suspended again and unavailable for selection, just when he has been given an opportunity he has shot himself in the foot.

Funny you mention facts, the only one in your post is that he's suspended.

Stats are also facts by the way
 

Because they are both Everton players.
With all due respect to both you and the argument you're having, that's a reeeeeeally crap thing to judge players on. As pointed out, comparing Barry and Mirallas, different positions etc., for cards would be like comparing Stones to Lukaku for goals.

But they're both Everton players aren't they...
 
With all due respect to both you and the argument you're having, that's a reeeeeeally crap thing to judge players on. As pointed out, comparing Barry and Mirallas, different positions etc., for cards would be like comparing Stones to Lukaku for goals.

But they're both Everton players aren't they...
I think you've missed the sarcasm in that particular post. @larbert toffee was using a career total of two red cards as "evidence" that Mirallas is a selfish, petulant player. Whilst that argument MIGHT be true, two red cards doesn't prove it. Especially when you consider that other current players with shorter Everton careers have just as many red cards. I was trying to demonstrate that @larbert toffee was applying a double standard by giving one player grief for getting two red cards in four seasons and ignoring the fact that another player has the same number of reds in three seasons.

And even after all that, two red cards doesn't outweigh 32 goals and 26 assists in four seasons. I'm sorry, but it just doesn't.
 

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