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2017/18 Kieran Dowell

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Not really Dave, he will play much more at Forest than he would have here, Forest also play a type of footy which will suit him, and it's a very young squad they have so lot of players in a similar boat to share the pressure.

Overall it's good for the lad and hopefully good for his future here, will give you that as far as Koeman was concerned the loan was more to raise his value to sell him though, hopefully new manager will get a player much more seasoned and able to contribute next season.
I'm dubious on loans to that division.

What did loaning Barkley to Leeds and Sheff Wed add to his game?

We were just robbed of a season of his talents.
 

I think this is the ultimate insult on the back of the idiot season long loan deal:

From the local Nottingham rag:

Already an England Under-20 international, he has the potential to play for the senior side if he is given opportunities in the Premier League. At the moment there are no guarantees parent club Everton will be there next season. Forest might be 11th, but their proximity to the play-off places will raise expectations again in a league where a burst of form can transform the perspective of supporters."
 

He wouldn't be growing, learning or improving like he has this season if he was still here. He'd be sat on the bench or in the U23s.

Doing what he's doing for Forest is absolutely perfect for us.
 
I think this is the ultimate insult on the back of the idiot season long loan deal:

From the local Nottingham rag:

Already an England Under-20 international, he has the potential to play for the senior side if he is given opportunities in the Premier League. At the moment there are no guarantees parent club Everton will be there next season. Forest might be 11th, but their proximity to the play-off places will raise expectations again in a league where a burst of form can transform the perspective of supporters."

I wanted to see more of him this season, and wasn't happy he was sent out on loan.

However right now I am happy he is away from the mess we are in and is not being hounded and demoralised for not running about enough and tackling everything that moves.

He is a kid, and the chances of him having the character to have risen above everything and kept his head up are very slim. Not too many youngsters have the cojones to grab a hold of a team in a mess and make a difference.

Hopefully he comes back to a happier Everton in the summer.
 
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/h...t-player-now-the-first-name-on-the-teamsheet/

Is the 20-year-old now the first name on the teamsheet at the City Ground?

We take a look….

Alfie Burns

He simply has to be.

His performance against Hull was magnificent, and Mark Warburton’s decision to start Dowell proved to be a stroke of genius.

Many were waiting for Dowell to introduce himself to the Championship, and Saturday’s performance has shown what the on-loan Everton man is all about.

Chris Gallagher

He has to be after Saturday.

Dowell was magnificent on Saturday and delivered a match-winning performance with his hat-trick and will be full of confidence now.

His first two goals were superb strikes and displayed what he is all about.

Next up is Reading and Mark Warburton will be hoping for a repeat performance from the talented Everton man.

George Dagless

I think he has to be.

There’s a good case to suggest that he’d get into the Everton team at the moment so I think he is a nailed on starter for Forest.

His hat-trick was sublime at the weekend but he has been impressive all season and that game at Hull will surely be a further boost to his confidence.

He is keeping Zach Clough out of the side and I think that is how it is going to stay for some time to come.
 
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/h...t-player-now-the-first-name-on-the-teamsheet/

Is the 20-year-old now the first name on the teamsheet at the City Ground?

We take a look….

Alfie Burns

He simply has to be.

His performance against Hull was magnificent, and Mark Warburton’s decision to start Dowell proved to be a stroke of genius.

Many were waiting for Dowell to introduce himself to the Championship, and Saturday’s performance has shown what the on-loan Everton man is all about.

Chris Gallagher

He has to be after Saturday.

Dowell was magnificent on Saturday and delivered a match-winning performance with his hat-trick and will be full of confidence now.

His first two goals were superb strikes and displayed what he is all about.

Next up is Reading and Mark Warburton will be hoping for a repeat performance from the talented Everton man.

George Dagless

I think he has to be.

There’s a good case to suggest that he’d get into the Everton team at the moment so I think he is a nailed on starter for Forest.

His hat-trick was sublime at the weekend but he has been impressive all season and that game at Hull will surely be a further boost to his confidence.

He is keeping Zach Clough out of the side and I think that is how it is going to stay for some time to come.



Mark Warburton has handled Dowell very well so far, giving him starts, bringing him off when he faded by 60 mins, still playing him the next game but not overplaying him. The previous game he came on at 70 mins and helped set up their second goal with his usual deft touches. His hat trick was indeed sublime , but we know he can do that , we’ve seen it at u21/23s . The bit that was equally impressive for me was that he was working and involved for the full 90 mins , take away the goals and he was still the best player, rarely has he done that. Warburton's the type to praise him up and then talk to him about bits he can improve on . “You know Kieran you need to work on your right foot, if it was half as good as your left you’d have scored four if that shot with your right had been struck properly. Oh , and that defensive lapse when you let their player get a free header in, well you’re not a defender, but this is how you can improve that.... “

The loan is done , people can moan about it as much as they like he’s not coming back this season , just watch and enjoy the kid whenever we can.
 
Mark Warburton has handled Dowell very well so far, giving him starts, bringing him off when he faded by 60 mins, still playing him the next game but not overplaying him. The previous game he came on at 70 mins and helped set up their second goal with his usual deft touches. His hat trick was indeed sublime , but we know he can do that , we’ve seen it at u21/23s . The bit that was equally impressive for me was that he was working and involved for the full 90 mins , take away the goals and he was still the best player, rarely has he done that. Warburton's the type to praise him up and then talk to him about bits he can improve on . “You know Kieran you need to work on your right foot, if it was half as good as your left you’d have scored four if that shot with your right had been struck properly. Oh , and that defensive lapse when you let their player get a free header in, well you’re not a defender, but this is how you can improve that.... “

The loan is done , people can moan about it as much as they like he’s not coming back this season , just watch and enjoy the kid whenever we can.

Count me as one who didn't want it, and still wishes we hadn't let him go, but thinks it can be beneficial to him, if not us this season, then next. The key is getting to the right club and manager, and I think we did that. Walsh, on the other hand looks to be mired in a bad place.
 

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