I believe Liam Walsh is still injured, and without wishing to restoke the “ crap loan” theme as I understand it Walsh , unlike Dowell, is set to return in January.
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....all conjecture and hypothetical, but given Unsworth is now in charge I wonder if Dowell would be a starter now had he not gone on loan. I suppose the same applies to Liam Walsh and Joe Williams.
evertonarntwe
Player Valuation: £35m
I'd have dowell over rooney right now. rooney hasn't even been as bad as others, he just doesn't work in trhe system we have been playing, he doesn't have a propa position
johnnydawg68
Chairperson, People's Front of Saint Domingo
That's very good news mate.
Interesting stuff from some grim midlands rag.
http://www.eastwoodadvertiser.co.uk...of-age-after-hat-trick-against-hull-1-8834580
Kieran Dowell single handily dismantled Hull City at the weekend, and in doing so, came of age in the professional game.
The twenty year old, who’s on loan from Premier League Everton, has shown glimpses of brilliance at Forest, without consistently stamping his authority on the season to date.
But his stunning hat-trick at the KC Stadium could well be the turning point in his promising career.
He impressed me immediately, when he came on as a substitute against Millwall on the opening day of the season.
What caught my eye during his debut was his movement and balance; he created space without touching the ball; a trait that the very best midfielders in the world all possess.
It’s fair to say that Dowell has been a little hit and miss until now. But you get the feeling, having asserted himself so well against Hull’s David Meyler in front of the Sky TV cameras; he has set the benchmark for future greatness.
What caught my eye during his debut was his movement and balance; he created space without touching the ball; a trait that the very best midfielders in the world all possess.
When you analyse Dowell’s first two goals, you’ll notice that Meyler, who’s an experienced Republic of Ireland international, was second best to his young opponent on both occasions.
Kieran Dowell’s second finish bore a striking resemblance to that of Nigel Clough’s second goal in the League Cup final versus Luton Town, way back in 1989.
And just like Clough, the youngster created just enough room to dispatch his net bound strike. For me, it wasn’t his goals that moulded this performance, but the manner in which he created and manipulated those spaces in the midfield, time after time.
As I mentioned earlier, Dowell has the ability to open areas of the midfield without touching the ball.
He drops his shoulders and shifts his weight in a manner that reminds me of Chris Waddle in his prime, not a bad comparison by any stretch of the imagination.
On Saturday, Dowell performed such manoeuvres time after time, and in doing so, orchestrated one of Forest’s most attack minded performances of the season.
Creating such space is far harder than it looks in a tightly congested midfield, but when you get it right, it’s a real game changer.
He drops his shoulders and shifts his weight in a manner that reminds me of Chris Waddle in his prime, not a bad comparison by any stretch of the imagination.
Imagine if you will a hoola-hoop on the floor, and two opposing midfielders within its circumference. At Championship level football that’s a fair reflection of shirt-tight marking, and one that Dowell made a mockery of against Hull.
By using the pace of incoming passes, he was able shift his body weight and expand the imaginary hoop to ten feet at times.
It would be remiss not to mention the industrious pairing of David Vaughan and Liam Bridcutt behind him, a tandem that seems to work well when both are fit.
Bridcutt has been disappointing at times, but performs so differently when partnered by the Welshman.
Vaughan is so meticulous at breaking up the opposition attacks; it’s actually allowed the former Leeds United man to appear more as a creative playmaker.
Hats off to Mark Warburton for this, he’s gone with two holding players for a reason, and is vindicated when they perform in such a manner.
It was a case of “after the Lord Mayor’s show,” however as Forest were brought back down to earth with a defeat at Reading on Tuesday.
Interestingly, Kieran Dowell couldn’t replicate his weekend heroics and was a mere passenger in the contest. Dowell, along with fellow youngsters, Joe Worrall and Jordan Smith, had a night to forget down in Berkshire; but are clocking up the millage as they grow.
And the experience will serve them all well in the long run; when you see that they’ve a combined age of 62, it puts it into perspective.
One thing’s for sure, Kieran Dowell will never forget his virtuoso performance at Hull City, and neither will the supporters of Nottingham Forest Football Club.
http://www.eastwoodadvertiser.co.uk...of-age-after-hat-trick-against-hull-1-8834580
Kieran Dowell single handily dismantled Hull City at the weekend, and in doing so, came of age in the professional game.
The twenty year old, who’s on loan from Premier League Everton, has shown glimpses of brilliance at Forest, without consistently stamping his authority on the season to date.
But his stunning hat-trick at the KC Stadium could well be the turning point in his promising career.
He impressed me immediately, when he came on as a substitute against Millwall on the opening day of the season.
What caught my eye during his debut was his movement and balance; he created space without touching the ball; a trait that the very best midfielders in the world all possess.
It’s fair to say that Dowell has been a little hit and miss until now. But you get the feeling, having asserted himself so well against Hull’s David Meyler in front of the Sky TV cameras; he has set the benchmark for future greatness.
What caught my eye during his debut was his movement and balance; he created space without touching the ball; a trait that the very best midfielders in the world all possess.
When you analyse Dowell’s first two goals, you’ll notice that Meyler, who’s an experienced Republic of Ireland international, was second best to his young opponent on both occasions.
Kieran Dowell’s second finish bore a striking resemblance to that of Nigel Clough’s second goal in the League Cup final versus Luton Town, way back in 1989.
And just like Clough, the youngster created just enough room to dispatch his net bound strike. For me, it wasn’t his goals that moulded this performance, but the manner in which he created and manipulated those spaces in the midfield, time after time.
As I mentioned earlier, Dowell has the ability to open areas of the midfield without touching the ball.
He drops his shoulders and shifts his weight in a manner that reminds me of Chris Waddle in his prime, not a bad comparison by any stretch of the imagination.
On Saturday, Dowell performed such manoeuvres time after time, and in doing so, orchestrated one of Forest’s most attack minded performances of the season.
Creating such space is far harder than it looks in a tightly congested midfield, but when you get it right, it’s a real game changer.
He drops his shoulders and shifts his weight in a manner that reminds me of Chris Waddle in his prime, not a bad comparison by any stretch of the imagination.
Imagine if you will a hoola-hoop on the floor, and two opposing midfielders within its circumference. At Championship level football that’s a fair reflection of shirt-tight marking, and one that Dowell made a mockery of against Hull.
By using the pace of incoming passes, he was able shift his body weight and expand the imaginary hoop to ten feet at times.
It would be remiss not to mention the industrious pairing of David Vaughan and Liam Bridcutt behind him, a tandem that seems to work well when both are fit.
Bridcutt has been disappointing at times, but performs so differently when partnered by the Welshman.
Vaughan is so meticulous at breaking up the opposition attacks; it’s actually allowed the former Leeds United man to appear more as a creative playmaker.
Hats off to Mark Warburton for this, he’s gone with two holding players for a reason, and is vindicated when they perform in such a manner.
It was a case of “after the Lord Mayor’s show,” however as Forest were brought back down to earth with a defeat at Reading on Tuesday.
Interestingly, Kieran Dowell couldn’t replicate his weekend heroics and was a mere passenger in the contest. Dowell, along with fellow youngsters, Joe Worrall and Jordan Smith, had a night to forget down in Berkshire; but are clocking up the millage as they grow.
And the experience will serve them all well in the long run; when you see that they’ve a combined age of 62, it puts it into perspective.
One thing’s for sure, Kieran Dowell will never forget his virtuoso performance at Hull City, and neither will the supporters of Nottingham Forest Football Club.
gerryandtheRedhaters
Player Valuation: £1.5m
probably been said already but can we get him back in january?
No season long loan!
gerryandtheRedhaters
Player Valuation: £1.5m
i thought you could if the loan club had bad injury list
Links?
gerryandtheRedhaters
Player Valuation: £1.5m
who cares what Forest fans think? nothing club from the 70s and 80s like Leeds, Villa etc
royalblue66
Player Valuation: £70m
Should never been allowed to go on loan.
ijjysmith
Calm
I think I disagree with this.
A season playing regular confidence building footie will be doing him a whole lot better than being on our bench in a desperate team, being brought on to try and change impossible situations.
Nah he's in the right place. For now.
royalblue66
Player Valuation: £70m
It's a good thing if we are ok for strikers. But we ain't.
ijjysmith
Calm
He's not a striker though. He wouldn't be playing up top mate.
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