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2017/18 Kieran Dowell

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Successful loan. Interesting to see if hes in the pre season squad. Love to see him given a go with Kenny & Davies in our team firing
 
I'm just wondering why the need for the word 'white'....

Is this what people call 'reverse racism'?
You are being finicky Zat
The great white hope tag is a Boxing term that in football terms is applied to any young player that shows promise it regardless of race.
Too many have flattered to deceive in the past both at our club and others.
Rodwell Jeffers Green are just some of our previous Great White Hopes.
Davies if not careful is heading in the same direction
I remember all the hype over McCarthy at 16 and Real and Barca being interested.
Never really made the top level yet has he.
For those of a certain vintage I give you Peter Marinello at Arsenal @Eggs
 

Successful loan. Interesting to see if hes in the pre season squad. Love to see him given a go with Kenny & Davies in our team firing

I actually think the presence of Rooney is a barrier at the moment for Dowell

He's clearly a number 10, or at a push playing from the right cutting in on his left foot

We have Sigurdsson and Rooney as senior players in the number 10 role and Rooney will still be here next season (and let's be fair, he's scored 11 goals already this season, so you couldn't say he's been a complete failure)

Dowell is getting huge benefit from this loan spell and all the exposure to first team football he is getting, but if we bring him back next season, the concern is that he comes in as 3rd choice at number 10 behind Sigurdsson and Rooney and stagnates

It *might* be better to get him a loan to a Premier League club next season and then bring him back when Rooney leaves at the end of his contract in 2019
 
I actually think the presence of Rooney is a barrier at the moment for Dowell

He's clearly a number 10, or at a push playing from the right cutting in on his left foot

We have Sigurdsson and Rooney as senior players in the number 10 role and Rooney will still be here next season (and let's be fair, he's scored 11 goals already this season, so you couldn't say he's been a complete failure)

Dowell is getting huge benefit from this loan spell and all the exposure to first team football he is getting, but if we bring him back next season, the concern is that he comes in as 3rd choice at number 10 behind Sigurdsson and Rooney and stagnates

It *might* be better to get him a loan to a Premier League club next season and then bring him back when Rooney leaves at the end of his contract in 2019

Oh dear.
 
I actually think the presence of Rooney is a barrier at the moment for Dowell

He's clearly a number 10, or at a push playing from the right cutting in on his left foot

We have Sigurdsson and Rooney as senior players in the number 10 role and Rooney will still be here next season (and let's be fair, he's scored 11 goals already this season, so you couldn't say he's been a complete failure)

Dowell is getting huge benefit from this loan spell and all the exposure to first team football he is getting, but if we bring him back next season, the concern is that he comes in as 3rd choice at number 10 behind Sigurdsson and Rooney and stagnates

It *might* be better to get him a loan to a Premier League club next season and then bring him back when Rooney leaves at the end of his contract in 2019

..I think you make some very valid points. As I said yesterday, he’s already behind a few in the queue for the no10 spot but he has come through the ranks as a right sided midfielder (a position he had in the England youth World Cup winning team). The other bonus is that he has already formed a genuine partnership with Kenny. We know that the two players blend and compliment each other. I genuinely feel he’s the best right sided option we have on the staff at the moment but that could change if other players come in. Onyekuru is another consideration,although I think he mainly plays from the left.

I’d like Allardyce to be asked if he’s following the progress of young loanees, especially given that this was part of Royle’s remit. I’m not predicting any have a future with us but Dowell, Williams and Connolly are impressing at Championship level. They can do no more than that.
 

You are being finicky Zat
The great white hope tag is a Boxing term that in football terms is applied to any young player that shows promise it regardless of race.
Too many have flattered to deceive in the past both at our club and others.
Rodwell Jeffers Green are just some of our previous Great White Hopes.
Davies if not careful is heading in the same direction
I remember all the hype over McCarthy at 16 and Real and Barca being interested.
Never really made the top level yet has he.
For those of a certain vintage I give you Peter Marinello at Arsenal @Eggs

Marinello the Scottish (hibs) George Best. Was woeful at Arsenal. Bit like James McFadden the Scottish Rooney.
 

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