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2017/18 Kieran Dowell

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Neiler said:
I look forward to him being given his chance, then everyone wanting him benched after a couple of weeks.

You know you love your fickleness.
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I hate that we do that.
We love expecting everyone to be the next Dixie Dean, or any of the stars of the 60s or 80s teams, or Rooney, or whoever. When they're not, we throw them out.
Best supporters in the world? Most of the time.
 
blueblue said:
No player has earned the right to play now based on what they have done before, otherwise Rooney would be in the team until he is 40.

Dowell and Kenny are with the first team squad and may drop down at times to play under 23. They have earned the right to be considered, but not to be picked as with every other player, they have to prove now that they are worth picking.

If they are good enough they will be picked, it isn't RK alone they have to impress, it is the entire coaching staff.
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I probably didn't word that very well. What I meant is that he's earned the right to be given an opportunity there for longer than 45 mins in a meaningless friendly. If he doesn't perform well or looks completely out of his depth, then fair enough. But I've every confidence in him and given the opportunity I reckon he'll give Koeman a "good" headache when Seamus get's back.
 
Eggsyblueskin said:
I have no doubt Kenny will get his chance when the manager judges it to be the right time. We always tend to push the case for young players to be introduced early and forget the step up to the first team is a big one. Calvert -Lewin is being allowed to learn his trade without being the main striker and having that pressure.
In recent years (relatively) I remember berating Moyes for not playing Coleman more often. He introduced him to the team in more of a winger role to get him used to the game, he looked brilliant. Yet when he was finally used at full back he was still prone to mistakes and misjudgements. It takes time. We do not know how well a player is doing in training, or what the players character is, how will he respond if he has a poor game.?
These are the things we cannot know therefore without all the information our judgement is always flawed. We have to trust the manager and his coaching team. We can question but we cannot presume to know more than them.
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Kenny has absolutely earned the right to start while Coleman is out. There's literally nothing else he could have done. He's gone on loan twice - successfully. He's captained the U23s to a league title. He was the best player on the pitch most matches this summer for a World Cup winner. And then he's not even in the squad for the EL match, and Martina goes out and is absolute dross.

I'm glad you have no doubt Kenny will get his chance, but I'm sat here thinking if he didn't get it last Thursday, at home, when is that going to happen.

I totally hope I'm wrong and overreacting here, and will be happy to be wrong. But I have my doubts.
 


Forest are crying out for creativity and a magic midfielder. Interesting to see how he does at a decent level, not just against lads his age/younger than him.
 

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