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2017/18 Kieran Dowell

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Bagpuss said:
I said in the youth team thread that I thought Dowell needed regular game time but we should be sending him abroad rather than the championship. He needs to play competitive football at a level above the 23's so from that point of view it's a positive.
My concern (without building dowell up to the level of some le-tissieresque god) is that in order to see the best of dowell he needs to be in a team of thinking footballers who are on the same lavelength as him. The reason I wanted Dowell to go abroad is that technically the players he would be playing alongside and against would be better than the championship and we would get a better idea of the player Dowell could become.
Glad the lad is going to get regular football, just thought we could have got a better league for him to showcase his undoubted talent. Good luck to him!
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What if no offers have come in from abroad for him, have you ever considered that like?

I mean I am pretty sure the championship is a lot more competitive than the Swiss league for instance, so not sure exactly where you feel he should be going? We can't just send him to Manchester airport with his boots and a passport to find a club.
 
Foot Long Hot Dog said:
Do you never cease trying to find a negative about literally everything?

With the imminent arrival of Sigurdsson and the competition already in the squad, then Dowell was simply not going to get much game time this season. He's 19 and has not yet had a loan move to play regular competitive football. He's now going to Forest to get a full season in the Championship and therefore enhance his development. Seriously, what is wrong with that?

Koeman has both bought youth, and played youth, he obviously feels that Dowell needs to play competitive football as opposed to being on the fringes of the squad and playing for the U23's most of the time.
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Not much game time is better than no game time at all. It's how youngsters have broken through into the first team since football began: seize their chance.

"Enhance his development in the Championship".

Kin ell. Do me a favour.
 
DualityNSNO said:
Davies was blooded with the first team before Koeman?

You mean when Martinez didn't play him at all during his tenure here, or let him be in the U23's while Davies was called up to train with the senior England set up (just FYI, by Roy Hodgson, who spotted the talent but Martinez didn't, it seems)?

Right.
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Yes, against Krasnodar in the EL...two and a half years ago.

Welcome to 2014.
 
This thread frustrates me. It's quite clearly a good move for the lad and he himself is said to be delighted.

I reckon most people fuming are the ones that have only seen him play this pre-season or a YouTube goal here and there.

Even read on FB earlier "ffs why have we let him go we needed his pace". I didn't even bother replying.
 

davek said:
Not much game time is better than no game time at all. It's how youngsters have broken through into the first team since football began: seize their chance.

"Enhance his development in the Championship".

Kin ell. Do me a favour.
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Jesus wept! the championship is one of the most competitive leagues out there. Whilst you have been living in the past and consider it a league full of grocks and hoofers, the improvement of quality in the prem has obviously had a knock on effect down to the next league and we actually have clubs of massive stature in there, european cup winners and finalists of yesteryear such as Villa, Forest and Leeds.

I really do wonder if you are stuck in the 70's or something.
 
davek said:
Not much game time is better than no game time at all. It's how youngsters have broken through into the first team since football began: seize their chance.

"Enhance his development in the Championship".

Kin ell. Do me a favour.
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Of course he can develop in the Championship, he's barely played any competitive football, and it's a highly competitive league

Trying to portray it as glorified Sunday League is desperate, even by your standards.
 
Joe Royle said at one of those after dinner things that Unsworth and himself felt that Dowell needed to go on loan to a Championship club that plays the kind of football that suits Dowell, and he can be a focal point of. They felt this would help his development the most because he's not yet ready to play the same role in Everton's first team. They actually said an Eddie Howe Bournemouth but in the Championship would have been ideal.

If this Forrest thing is happening then I guess they've found their club for him.

This is a great move for him, where he can learn to affect first team football matches. It worked for Seamus when he went to Blackpool, and I know quite a few within the club wanted Rodwell to go down this route as well, but instead he was integrated in to an alien position in Everton's first team and his career didn't really work out as they'd hoped.
 
Nymzee said:
This thread frustrates me. It's quite clearly a good move for the lad and he himself is said to be delighted.

I reckon most people fuming are the ones that have only seen him play this pre-season or a YouTube goal here and there.

Even read on FB earlier "ffs why have we let him go we needed his pace". I didn't even bother replying.
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I think it is a great move, better he gets 30+ starts in Championship than 10+ 5 minute cameos and a couple of starts for us.
 


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