Kirkby Called In.

[danmac]

another shot to the pills. if we [Poor language removed] up or get [Poor language removed] up 13 or 14 more times im gonna have a coronary

 

[Neiler]

Semi Final was at Elland Road...

Yeah not Goodison!

 

[Makis]

No investment, no transfers really a very sad day.

But didn't Ross say that the decision doesn't affect Moyes's transfer budget? Are you calling him a liar?

Would we pay for the land fill clean up? No, I wouldnt think so.

Why not? Everton has to pay for a lot of things.

Why would Goodison cost more? I'm sure it was pulled up that a plan to redevelope goodison years ago would cost 60million -- inflation was added for todays market and it hit 150+ million.

So the price has increased 250%? What an inflation!

Its foundations need a to be rebuilt ground, up.

But obviously Kirkby doesn't need foundations?

Stage by stage will knock gate recipets down as building is going on.

It has been proved time and again that
a. Doing it in the right order would mean that only the first phase would see attendances lower than 40,000 and
b. Just like other clubs, the matches can be arranged so that the team starts with a bunch of away matches (other clubs have had this arrangement, so why not Everton?).

The surround areas need to be bought out.

LCC has already said that the school will close and I would imagine they would be willing to sell at cut price if Everton decided to stay at GP.

You seen how close the house' are to the ground? To expand they need to go. New facilites, new executive boxes

These are not needed in Kirkby? :blink:

and also trasnport (yes the city would need to sort out their transport) for an extra 10,000 fans.

LCC has already given signals that the closed train station could be re-opened. Plus Liverpool has to put money into improved infrastructure in the area themselves. This would benefit EFC as well.

If both us and the [Poor language removed] played the same day thats 120,000's fans in a few miles of each other in a close area.

They won't. When's the last time both clubs played in the same day? The police won't even allow that.

Some facts about DK:
a. Transport infrastructure is completely inadequate. Kirkby has a population of 40,000 and an infrastructure to match. It is completely inadequate in a situation where 50,000 people all rush into town within a few hours. There will be no improvements to this.

b. Parking is extremely limited. All the spaces near the stadium are for corporate customers, players, officials and such. The closest parking areas for supporters will be miles away. The train station in Kirkby only has one line and it's capacity is completely inadequate. How will it make a stadium attractive to new supporters if it takes two hours to get there and another two hours to get out of there?

c. The stadium would have had LESS corporate boxes than Southampton's St Mary's. And much, much less than our rivals. Spurs have, I think about three times more.

d. Where will the new supporters come from? Wyness' laughable suggestion (Liverpool - Manchester corridor) is best forgotten. It's not like they don't have options, is it?

e. Just to break even the stadium would have to be sold out most matches. And even Wyness' only predicted an extra ten million REVENUE (not profit).

f. How would a stadium in a small town be attractive to corporate sponsors and clients?

g. There will be NO concerts or similar in the stadium, KMBC has already demanded on this. Just as well, who would want to stage a concert there instead of venues in Liverpool or Manchester?

h. The club would be obliged to offer KMBC free use of the stadium facilities 100 times per year. If the club can't offer this (like on a match day), the club has to pay for the facilities KMBC uses instead.

i. The stadium would be designed by a company whose track record is abysmal. The cost per seat is so low that the stadium would have been extremely basic (and this is also stated in official documents). A breeze-block stadium with basic facilities.

And there is much more. How would the stadium generate more money?

 

[NeoNaoNeo]

Yeah not Goodison!

Not Wembley either.

Besides, see other post: wasn't insinuating that every match of our FA Cup run was played at Goodison, but that the players who took part in that run did.

 

[Animal Farm]

Like getting to Goodison is a walk in the park. An hour it takes on a cramped bus from the ground to the city centre. People walk to goodison from the city centre and it takes them 45 minutes.

There's parking in Fazackerly, Rice Lane, all walkable to Kirkby in less that 20minutes.

The transport could be figured out, theyre were just proposals not cast iron facts

Thats nonsense, what bus are you getting? the 18, 19, 20 get you to Goodison in 15 minutes.

Er, they were proposals.... in the transport plan... are you suggesting that they were keeping the real proposals secret just to make things more difficult for themselves? Instead of mentioning them in the TRANSPORT PLAN?????

How ridiculous do you want to be?

 

[Duncan9]

I am not very happy about the call in. I AM BLOODY ECSTATIC !

Perhaps all of the lies and spin have come home to roost ?

ManU, Villa and Spurs have all improved their stadia over a period of time. It can be done. I would imagine that our Board were looking for a quick fix so they could flog the club off at a profit.

KEIOC have not cost Everton Football Club a penny. Anybody should consider the lies, deceit etc., when the vote was about to be held including the letter from Tesco Terry.

We`re not going to Kirkby, we`re not going to Kirkby La La La La La La La La

 

[NeoNaoNeo]

But didn't Ross say that the decision doesn't affect Moyes's transfer budget? Are you calling him a liar?....

Great post

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Of course i am a local lad, i did not state anywhere i was a local Liverpool lad, and for your information i would not want a Ground Move here in Huyton. I may contradict myself, but you put words into peoples mouths. Get off your high horse and move on. You wanted this move and i did'nt. Let it be now.

So why were you saying you were a local lad? I am a local lad to Deva Stadium. Woo hoo.

My god, isn't Kipper open yet?

 

[GhostOfDixie]

But didn't Ross say that the decision doesn't affect Moyes's transfer budget? Are you calling him a liar?


Why not? Everton has to pay for a lot of things.


So the price has increased 250%? What an inflation!


But obviously Kirkby doesn't need foundations?


It has been proved time and again that
a. Doing it in the right order would mean that only the first phase would see attendances lower than 40,000 and
b. Just like other clubs, the matches can be arranged so that the team starts with a bunch of away matches (other clubs have had this arrangement, so why not Everton?).


LCC has already said that the school will close and I would imagine they would be willing to sell at cut price if Everton decided to stay at GP.


These are not needed in Kirkby? :blink:


LCC has already given signals that the closed train station could be re-opened. Plus Liverpool has to put money into improved infrastructure in the area themselves. This would benefit EFC as well.


They won't. When's the last time both clubs played in the same day? The police won't even allow that.

Some facts about DK:
a. Transport infrastructure is completely inadequate. Kirkby has a population of 40,000 and an infrastructure to match. It is completely inadequate in a situation where 50,000 people all rush into town within a few hours. There will be no improvements to this.

b. Parking is extremely limited. All the spaces near the stadium are for corporate customers, players, officials and such. The closest parking areas for supporters will be miles away. The train station in Kirkby only has one line and it's capacity is completely inadequate. How will it make a stadium attractive to new supporters if it takes two hours to get there and another two hours to get out of there?

c. The stadium would have had LESS corporate boxes than Southampton's St Mary's. And much, much less than our rivals. Spurs have, I think about three times more.

d. Where will the new supporters come from? Wyness' laughable suggestion (Liverpool - Manchester corridor) is best forgotten. It's not like they don't have options, is it?

e. Just to break even the stadium would have to be sold out most matches. And even Wyness' only predicted an extra ten million REVENUE (not profit).

f. How would a stadium in a small town be attractive to corporate sponsors and clients?

g. There will be NO concerts or similar in the stadium, KMBC has already demanded on this. Just as well, who would want to stage a concert there instead of venues in Liverpool or Manchester?

h. The club would be obliged to offer KMBC free use of the stadium facilities 100 times per year. If the club can't offer this (like on a match day), the club has to pay for the facilities KMBC uses instead.

i. The stadium would be designed by a company whose track record is abysmal. The cost per seat is so low that the stadium would have been extremely basic (and this is also stated in official documents). A breeze-block stadium with basic facilities.

And there is much more. How would the stadium generate more money?

Now these are reasons why the move to Kirkby is flawed. And I'm glad someone with intelligence has decided to come forward and say it. Getting sick of hearing the boundary excuse as an argument.

 

[steevie]

So why were you saying you were a local lad? I am a local lad to Deva Stadium. Woo hoo.

My god, isn't Kipper open yet?

Saying nothing more to you no more, you do not have a clue what you are talking about, that is clearly evident. By the way, when are you going kipper again???

 

[Chang Elephant]

I am not very happy about the call in. I AM BLOODY ECSTATIC !

Perhaps all of the lies and spin have come home to roost ?

ManU, Villa and Spurs have all improved their stadia over a period of time. It can be done. I would imagine that our Board were looking for a quick fix so they could flog the club off at a profit.

KEIOC have not cost Everton Football Club a penny. Anybody should consider the lies, deceit etc., when the vote was about to be held including the letter from Tesco Terry.

We`re not going to Kirkby, we`re not going to Kirkby La La La La La La La La

But Duncan, think of all these billionaires that desperately wanted us to move to Kirkby so they could pay Bill an inflated price. OK they'll save the money but they're gonna have to build in Liverpool, and no-one wants that.

 

[Bainsey]

great news.

 

[GhostOfDixie]

Well I'm sorry Steevie La, you come on here and you celebrate the fact we are not going to take a step forward away from our archaic stadium. Yet you offer only one reason why we shouldn't move, and that is because of the boundary thing, and you live over there and then call yourself a local lad, and accuse me of not having the ability of an opinion because i'm from Chester.

I know what I am talking about. You are the one who has no clue, now where's that melt button gone.

 

[coyney]

A got a few questions.......

1. how will this effect are transfer policy this year? Depends if Bill has cash reserved for Kirkby it might be released otherwise it will be the same as now

2. where do we go from here? Depends again we will not have the funds needed so unless Tesco come up with something its back to plan B doing Goodison up one stand at a time

3. How the [Poor language removed] did them twatts from across the park get permission to build on a Victorian grad 3 listed park.(on of the oldest parks in the country) ? As always money talks and it helps that the majority of the councillors involved were R/S

At the moment every thing is now in turmoil but in a few days it will settle down and we will get a better Idea.

 

[TX Bill]

Waaaay too many windup posts from Evertonians directed towards other Evertonians for my liking.

I couldn't give a [Poor language removed] what side of the fence you came down on regarding Kirkby. I really don't care what the facts were. How many were for the move. How many were against. I don't care.

But these "la la la Kirkby's done" type of posts directed from those who were against Kirkby towards those who were for it really have no place on Grand Old Team.

Fortunately, most on this thread are having a semi-intelligent discussion about the merits of the recent events without having a go at another supporter. Some however can't seem to rise above the the typical name calling that you see so much of on other forums.

If you can't make reasoned commentary about the situation without resorting to name calling and windups, then I suggest you refrain from posting until you can do so.

The person on the other end of the post supports Everton JUST LIKE YOU DO.