Koeman: "Barkley looking for a new challenge"

[granter79]

Poch will sort Ross out and continue his rise to the top

 

[Runcornblue52]

Koeman was playing the system Pochettino left him.

Crazy argument to say Pochettino isn't head and shoulders above Koeman.

By that logic ............Koeman is playing the system Robbie left him ??/??......Lolz Dave C'mon Man ! Must try harder !!

 

[jinkyali]

Our last manager won more credible trophies than this manager we have now.

Won more than Poch too then?

 

[blueboy1945]

Oh yeah "the massive contract".

*sigh*

Yes, more in a week than you will earn in a year (or five).

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

I am 32; I have supported the club since I was 6 and class myself as a blue. Season ticket for 15 years in total.

I am massively confident when I say that there would be nothing which would stop me playing for the club if I was a professional. Nothing. The only way I would leave is literally if the club decided to sell me.

I cant imagine the circumstances in which I would want to reject a deal from the club I love. You can sod your 'parity with others' and 'wanting a better deal'. To play for Everton, as an Evertonian, is the pinnacle and there is no amount of money which could make up for playing for the club.

I think Ross has been badly advised to the hilt here. Imagine being his agent and saying 'you can do better elsewhere' when in all realistic likelihood, Barkley is currently playing at a level which befits his talent/maturity. I dont blame Ross in a way as I suspect he is being taken advantage of. I do however hold him purely responsible for acting in such a petulant manner to allow him to be taken advantage of.

The 'boy' is 23/24. He should be man enough to stand up for himself, fight for his place in a team and fight for the team he loves.

Its a tragic situation really (in football terms) and I imagine his parents must be apoplectic at how there boy / agent is treating the club he supposedly loves.

The sad thing for Ross is he is probably too naive to understand the journey this club is embarking on; he is giving up his opportunity to captain the club into the new stadium, go down as a hero and act as a shining light for one of the pillars of the club, its fantastic academy.

To me, this is a big kick in the balls to those who have contributed to his development, shown patience and given him the freedom to make mistakes. Koeman is the right man to iron out his obvious flaws, but it is seemingly too much of a fight for Ross.

To give up on the club he loves is startling but frankly, this will be forgotten about in six weeks time as the club will move on much more quicker than he ever will. At times Ross has been cowardly and introverted on the pitch, and it seems he is now starting to off the pitch.

Close the thread, this^ says it all

Ignore the usual boring davek wumfest, this fella has absolutely nailed it.

Great post mate

 

[bluestevon]

Ha Ha Ha.

I hope this feller is half the manager Pochettino is...we may win something.

Why would that be the case mate, when Pochettino has never won anything as a manager?

 

[bluestevon]

He had injuries in 2014 and missed a lot of games.

How does missing games effect stats of goals and assists per games actually played in mate?

 

[LocalNative]

I am 32; I have supported the club since I was 6 and class myself as a blue. Season ticket for 15 years in total.

I am massively confident when I say that there would be nothing which would stop me playing for the club if I was a professional. Nothing. The only way I would leave is literally if the club decided to sell me.

I cant imagine the circumstances in which I would want to reject a deal from the club I love. You can sod your 'parity with others' and 'wanting a better deal'. To play for Everton, as an Evertonian, is the pinnacle and there is no amount of money which could make up for playing for the club.

I think Ross has been badly advised to the hilt here. Imagine being his agent and saying 'you can do better elsewhere' when in all realistic likelihood, Barkley is currently playing at a level which befits his talent/maturity. I dont blame Ross in a way as I suspect he is being taken advantage of. I do however hold him purely responsible for acting in such a petulant manner to allow him to be taken advantage of.

The 'boy' is 23/24. He should be man enough to stand up for himself, fight for his place in a team and fight for the team he loves.

Its a tragic situation really (in football terms) and I imagine his parents must be apoplectic at how there boy / agent is treating the club he supposedly loves.

The sad thing for Ross is he is probably too naive to understand the journey this club is embarking on; he is giving up his opportunity to captain the club into the new stadium, go down as a hero and act as a shining light for one of the pillars of the club, its fantastic academy.

To me, this is a big kick in the balls to those who have contributed to his development, shown patience and given him the freedom to make mistakes. Koeman is the right man to iron out his obvious flaws, but it is seemingly too much of a fight for Ross.

To give up on the club he loves is startling but frankly, this will be forgotten about in six weeks time as the club will move on much more quicker than he ever will. At times Ross has been cowardly and introverted on the pitch, and it seems he is now starting to off the pitch.

You can't put yourself in his position, mate. Not defending him, but the pressure he is constantly under from us lot is enormous. Has been for years and in that sense, I can't really blame him for wanting a break.

I suspect there are many reasons that Ross is leaving. I also believe losing his place in the England team might have played a part, maybe he thinks playing for a bigger club will get him back in it.

That said, think he's better off sitting put. It's hard to tell now, but nobody wants Ross to succeed as much as us Evertonians.

 

[Toffee-nerd]

Idiot. Wants a new challenge. You'll have a massive one on your hands here just getting into the starting 11 next season sunshine. Really wish he would stay as he can develop a lot more with us but if his minds made up then that's his decision. Downright stupid decision though and I am 100% sure he will fall flat on his arse.

Successful managers want more from players like Barkley, koeman tried to get more out of him and he obviously doesn't like been criticized even if it is constructive. He won't get into the spurs side. Could see him at arsenal as wenger is the only remaining manager of a top club who mollycoddles their players but I think he'll wind up on the bench there long term. Best place for him is everton. If he can't see that then more fool him.

 

[Toffee-nerd]

You can't put yourself in his position, mate. Not defending him, but the pressure he is constantly under from us lot is enormous. Has been for years and in that sense, I can't really blame him for wanting a break.

I suspect there are many reasons that Ross is leaving. I also believe losing his place in the England team might have played a part, maybe he thinks playing for a bigger club will get him back in it.

That said, think he's better off sitting put. It's hard to tell now, but nobody wants Ross to succeed as much as us Evertonians.

He's rumoured to be off to spurs. He lost his place in the England team to deli ali. If he goes to spurs what does he think is going to happen? He will get even less game time so how is that going to get him back into the England side. Hodgsons comments were downright laughable the other day. Bloke is clearly losing his marbles. Can't see him being in a better situation by moving to spurs one bit.

 

[jinkyali]

You can't put yourself in his position, mate. Not defending him, but the pressure he is constantly under from us lot is enormous. Has been for years and in that sense, I can't really blame him for wanting a break.

I suspect there are many reasons that Ross is leaving. I also believe losing his place in the England team might have played a part, maybe he thinks playing for a bigger club will get him back in it.

That said, think he's better off sitting put. It's hard to tell now, but nobody wants Ross to succeed as much as us Evertonians.

I appreciate I cant be in his position. Hence I said I cant imagine the circumstances which would make me reject a deal from the club I love.

For me, pressure is part and parcel of the game and something any TOP player will thrive on. I can blame him massively for 'wanting a break'.
Say those words to yourself and listen again. Imagine your son told you he wants to 'leave everton as he wants a break from the pressure'.

What advice would you give? I know were all different but I would tell him how privileged he is to play for the club and he has the opportunity millions of boys dont get. Its one thing getting the opportunity, but its another striving to take it. Ross is seemingly giving it up without a fight.

The England thing is a none starter for me as we have had many England players over the years and will continue to do so for many years.

Its startling really and the longer you think about it, the more embarrassing it is for him.

 

[davek]

Why would that be the case mate, when Pochettino has never won anything as a manager?

Well Koeman has been managing for 17 years an never won a trophy of note.

He shows way more potential to land a major trophy than Koeman. I doubt Koeman will ever manage in the CL by the way, something that Pochettino has achieved a couple of times.

 

[BlueToff]

"Further spending not effected by Ross sale or not"

"Ross turned down over 100k p/week" (as I - and others - have said all along)

United and Spurs front runners

 

[Geoff Nulty]

He wont have to drop to the likes of Bournemouth when Spurs, Arsenal and maybe one of the other top six clubs will want him.

No, and I wasn't seriously suggesting it, but we were talking about which manager would get the best out of him.

 

[tadao]

Its a tragic situation really (in football terms) and I imagine his parents must be apoplectic at how there boy / agent is treating the club he supposedly loves.

To me, this is a big kick in the balls to those who have contributed to his development, shown patience and given him the freedom to make mistakes. Koeman is the right man to iron out his obvious flaws, but it is seemingly too much of a fight for Ross.

I'd imagine his parents would be supportive of whatever decision their son makes. They'll probably be more worried about stick they might get from fans.

Welcome back Wayne.