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The last Everton team that regularly turned up for big matches was Joe Royles dogs of war.We haven't mounted even one challenge for the league title since 1987.We have only won one trophy in 30 years and that was 22 years ago.We haven't won a merseyside derby since October 2010.We haven't won at Anfield since September 1999.There's lies dammed lies and statistics and over the last 30 years the stats are not on our side.It's time for Everton to start thinking and acting like a big club again.Thankfully under Moshiri i think that is starting to happen.
Fair point, although I would argue that in 83/84 we hadn't quite reached the pinnacle, and in 88/89 we were a shadow of our former selves. We bottled the others though.
I'm sure you're right, the exception probably being 'them'. Mixing that with the liberal smatterings of bad luck, (Thomas, Handballsen, Poll, Battenburg, Collina etc ) we've encountered only magnifies our failure in such games.
bert kassies, we have a rival - top stuff lad
MrGrumpy
Player Valuation: £50m
Last big big games we won are both against Utd. 95 fa cup and the win on pens under Moyes in the semi.
Not losing to Coventry on the last day of the season and beating Wimbledon I would also count as big games. In general when it really matters we lose and have done since 87
Not losing to Coventry on the last day of the season and beating Wimbledon I would also count as big games. In general when it really matters we lose and have done since 87
dave abrahams
Player Valuation: £8m
Fair enough.
I don't count the 2009 Semi/pens...they only put a scratch team out...served them right for doing so.
I'd say the Arsenal home game earlier this season was a big game.
We were on a terrible run, question marks over the manager, fans were getting tetchy and Arsenal were rampant at the time. I know we went on to lose the derby next game but I felt like the Arsenal game was a huge turning point, especially in our style of play. We became much more aggressive and start taking the game to teams.
We were on a terrible run, question marks over the manager, fans were getting tetchy and Arsenal were rampant at the time. I know we went on to lose the derby next game but I felt like the Arsenal game was a huge turning point, especially in our style of play. We became much more aggressive and start taking the game to teams.
If you were born in the 80's or 90's, you probably haven't seen a lot of "Big" wins
Hopefully we've served the penance for the new fans coming up so that they can enjoy some success in the coming years
We weren't born into success and we've had scant little of it for our adult lives. Instead the story of the club for us has been one of defiance, one of survival when so many wanted to see us fail, all spent living in hope that someone might buy the club and start turning things around
I hope, deary me I hope, that we're finally getting there with Moshiri at the helm. Hopefully "Big" wins start coming thick and fast in the near future!
Hopefully we've served the penance for the new fans coming up so that they can enjoy some success in the coming years
We weren't born into success and we've had scant little of it for our adult lives. Instead the story of the club for us has been one of defiance, one of survival when so many wanted to see us fail, all spent living in hope that someone might buy the club and start turning things around
I hope, deary me I hope, that we're finally getting there with Moshiri at the helm. Hopefully "Big" wins start coming thick and fast in the near future!
Mountfield1985
Player Valuation: £8m
1984 LC Final - Narrowly lost to the League/European Champions in a replay.
1984 FA Cup Final - WON
1985 ECWC - WON
1985 - Lost in extra time three days after the ECWC. One game too far in a mammoth season.
1986 - Two top teams. Played well enough, but Rush's brilliance did us on the day.
We were a shadow of Kendall's team by 1989, Liverpool were not. With the emotion around that game it was always going to be even more difficult for us.
We did the club proud in every big game in the 80's. And as people have said, we were almost big game specialists in the 90's with an awful team. I believe this complex we have only really developed during the Moyes years.
When Moyes took over we hadn't won at Old Trafford for 10 years, had beaten Arsenal twice in our last 20 meetings home or away, and had won 7 times at Anfield in the previous half century. We hadn't won at Spurs for 17 years and at Leeds for 51 years.
I believe this started way, way, way before Moyes got here.
Mountfield1985
Player Valuation: £8m
Fair comment.
The mid-90's teams were relegation fodder and had predictably poor records against better teams. But they still managed to pull out some huge victories away to Liverpool, United, Arsenal etc.. the FA Cup Final, and maybe the biggest game of them all when 0-2 down to Wimbledon.
I'm not trying to have a go at Moyes, it was that "plucky little Everton" attitude he fostered that originally dragged us out the mire and i'll always be grateful for that. But after that initial period we became good enough to start making our mark in some of those big games again, but just couldn't. Our record in big away games went from sketchy to completely embarrassing under Moyes' tenure, in my opinion.
Don't get me wrong, I don't disagree that Moyes's record in big games was terrible. I just think it often gets swept under the carpet that for some years before (and now some years after) his tenure, our record was no better than when he was here.
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