Last post: fan protests won't help the club you support

[chicoazul]

This is the last time I'll post as I believe this is a lost cause

But, I do care about the club a lot and so will say for a final time - creating a toxic culture at the club and demanding too much will obviously put fear into players and management which will impact performances, helping create the downward spiral that we've now seen - ultimately resulting in people not wanting to join the club

Yes, allowing Gordon and Rondon to leave and not replacing them when we urgently needed attacking players appears to have not been good management. I suspect it wasn't for lack of trying to get new players. They should probably have held off on the exits until replacements were lined up, if financially possible

BUT, the squad we have is still better than some are saying. The best chance the club has now is for the fanbase to rally behind Dyche and the players

If not, the fans will be helping the club they spend a lot of time supporting to go down. And that will then mean then supporting a team in the Championship. And if the negativity continues, the fans might help the club plummet down the leagues. You'd think actually people having that effect might be better doing something else with their time

Ultimately, personally I think Moshiri should sell to a new owner who can revatilise things. And the fan problem will only be sorted if it is somehow directly tackled. It seems many have a fixed mindset though, which is not unusual (think Trump America etc), which may not be possible to change - it's unfortunate but the reality

I wish you all the best!

Barry Horne

You can support the team and manager yet still protest the board and owner. They aren’t mutually exclusive.

These are the type of exchanges which are sound. A point and a counter. No malice, no abuse. Others could take note, particularly anyone abusing the thread starter for a well mannered leaving post. Perhaps he isn’t the problem.

 

[kev101]

Protests are OK, it's the lids chasing players and such that are f#ing all that side of things up for us. They're not protesting, their just enjoying their scummy little selves. It's them that need to be chased out of the club, along with the board of course.

 

[peteblue]

An interesting article regarding board members ….

https://www.toffeeweb.com/club/business/boardroom.asp

 

[Harryflashman]

These are the type of exchanges which are sound. A point and a counter. No malice, no abuse. Others could take note, particularly anyone abusing the thread starter for a well mannered leaving post. Perhaps he isn’t the problem.

I think you can chose whatever action you like , I’ve honestly no issue with people choosing not to protest. I think they’re wrong and that they’ll regret it but it’s their right . I have an issue with people calling those who protest the problem , there’s a distinct issue and I accept in my annoyed and angry middle aged Evertonian way I’ve failed to express that .

 

[brucemate]

This is the last time I'll post as I believe this is a lost cause

But, I do care about the club a lot and so will say for a final time - creating a toxic culture at the club and demanding too much will obviously put fear into players and management which will impact performances, helping create the downward spiral that we've now seen - ultimately resulting in people not wanting to join the club

Yes, allowing Gordon and Rondon to leave and not replacing them when we urgently needed attacking players appears to have not been good management. I suspect it wasn't for lack of trying to get new players. They should probably have held off on the exits until replacements were lined up, if financially possible

BUT, the squad we have is still better than some are saying. The best chance the club has now is for the fanbase to rally behind Dyche and the players

If not, the fans will be helping the club they spend a lot of time supporting to go down. And that will then mean then supporting a team in the Championship. And if the negativity continues, the fans might help the club plummet down the leagues. You'd think actually people having that effect might be better doing something else with their time

Ultimately, personally I think Moshiri should sell to a new owner who can revatilise things. And the fan problem will only be sorted if it is somehow directly tackled. It seems many have a fixed mindset though, which is not unusual (think Trump America etc), which may not be possible to change - it's unfortunate but the reality

I wish you all the best!

Barry Horne

Your paragraphs 2, 4 and 5 are assertions not backed up by one scintilla of evidence. Also I do not understand why you think posting your opinion onfootball fan forum is a lost cause.

In hindsight perhaps you would not have made the original post.

 

[chicoazul]

I think you can chose whatever action you like , I’ve honestly no issue with people choosing not to protest. I think they’re wrong and that they’ll regret it but it’s their right . I have an issue with people calling those who protest the problem , there’s a distinct issue and I accept in my annoyed and angry middle aged Evertonian way I’ve failed to express that .

Agreed. And those calling out those who don’t want to protest. Just do what you want, lads.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

 

[matty1878]

Sorry mate, don’t agree.

Squad is terrible. Board and owner cocked up last night.

yup

 

[Harryflashman]

Agreed. And those calling out those who don’t want to protest. Just do what you want, lads.

it’s just crap though isn’t it ? Like we can make jokes and have a laugh & obviously there are more important things but it’s crap . I was snapping at someone last night , who hasn’t the vaguest idea who Sean dyche is other than “that bloke who looks like he works the door and sounds a bit like Johnny Vegas “ because Everton couldn’t sign a player . They impact on your day to day life however hard we try and it seems unlikely that’ll be happening in a positive way for a while .

 

[trueblue84]

Everton's board waste close to 500m on dross, have no strategy, lie about everything from recruitment to having a strategy, appoint random mangers and assemble a Frankenstein team that other managers and players have said are "easy to play against" and "do know how to win", have systematically weakened every aspect of the club from playing staff to dinner ladies, have sold off a player for pure profit and refused to reinvest at a time we need it most.




But it's the fans' fault.

 

[riddick]

I just don't get the tone of his post. "Yeah, things are bad but protesting never did anything"? It's literally the only thing a supporter CAN do to try to change things. I get the idea that the team needs the supporters more than ever but you can't look at the absolute death spiral in the club and say that things are not needed to change? "Can't protest at the beginning of the year, the team needs us". "Can't protest when a manager has failed spectacularly, the team needs us". "Can't protest when a team joint bottom fails to bring in ANY players to improve us, the team needs us". "Can't protest when we are inevitably relegated, what's the point?"

 

[Neiler]

In fighting amongst fans now is just divisive.

Shared goal has to be to support the team - even if there is only a miracle chance of staying up and civil protest against the shocking corporate governance and impact at the club.

 

[chicoazul]

it’s just crap though isn’t it ? Like we can make jokes and have a laugh & obviously there are more important things but it’s crap . I was snapping at someone last night , who hasn’t the vaguest idea who Sean dyche is other than “that bloke who looks like he works the door and sounds a bit like Johnny Vegas “ because Everton couldn’t sign a player . They impact on your day to day life however hard we try and it seems unlikely that’ll be happening in a positive way for a while .

It’s honestly loads easier to put distance between you and Everton than loads think.

Limited social media and here so you’re not doom scrolling and making some really unhealthily angry and upset.

Switch off the game after it’s finished or just swerve the game and do something that serves you better, like read a book you got planned or go for a walk.

We know what Everton is and I hope it gets routed from the top down ASAP, but if it’s making you angry and damaging relationships around you then go make that distance happen until they’re sound again.

 

[Robbo05]

Demand too much????

Jesus wept, shall we just wait until we are relegated or when the club goes under?

Action is needed now, in fact it’s probably already too late.

Wake up… we are losing our club while people like the op wring their hands and dither.

 

[Leylo]

Went the protest in the summer they got away with it because we stayed up only few turning up.should of all turned up then before the pantomime got worse...I can't keep clapping like everything is ok been going every week since the early eightees and this is the worst I have ever seen