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Latest Takeover Rumour. The Moores / Noell one

Are you For or Against the idea of the possible Moores / Noell takeover ?

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TheFinnFan said:
Absolutely sure our current owners will demand strong assurances on things we hold dear as a club
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I agree with you mate. He's always gone on about finding suitable owners and personally think he wouldn't want his legacy to be finally tarnished by leaving us with some Cowboys. It's perfectly understandable why others disagree though and are wary. Guess we'll find out one way or another
 
Well, its not something i would do.

But i think "on paper" we dont have any real assets other than the stadium or players...

So the £200mil value will be based on that + projected revenues.

If we are looking at circa £50mil more a season then theres a few things:

A-- The owner could simply hold onto that £50mil and use it to buy assets like the training ground etc. Or take a loan out based on it to build a stadium using their own deep pockets as collateral. Meanwhile investing in players to improve the team as without the team being at the top the stadium will be empty as we see with championship clubs who went down this route.

B-- Pay £200mil, sell a bunch of players and still find "on paper" that theyve brought in say £120mil but the club is valued at more than £80mil. Then sell it on to someone at a much lower price...

@roydo i'm not "arguing" with anyone at all, i just dont see how the club can not be undervalued at £200mil...football clubs are calculated differently to other businesses so i really dont have any idea here.

Im obviously wrong because otherwise i think the price wouldnt be so low but i cant see actually why i am wrong...if that makes sense.




Woolly Blue said:
That's incredibly naive.

If you don't replace those players you'll have a weaker team which is going to perform poorer on the pitch, leading to decreased revenue and a possibility of relegation. You'd end up with a club which might be worth what you paid for it, but could easily be worth less.
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Zatara said:
Well, its not something i would do.

But i think "on paper" we dont have any real assets other than the stadium or players...

So the £200mil value will be based on that + projected revenues.

If we are looking at circa £50mil more a season then theres a few things:

A-- The owner could simply hold onto that £50mil and use it to buy assets like the training ground etc. Or take a loan out based on it to build a stadium using their own deep pockets as collateral. Meanwhile investing in players to improve the team as without the team being at the top the stadium will be empty as we see with championship clubs who went down this route.

B-- Pay £200mil, sell a bunch of players and still find "on paper" that theyve brought in say £120mil but the club is valued at more than £80mil. Then sell it on to someone at a much lower price...

@roydo i'm not "arguing" with anyone at all, i just dont see how the club can not be undervalued at £200mil...football clubs are calculated differently to other businesses so i really dont have any idea here.

Im obviously wrong because otherwise i think the price wouldnt be so low but i cant see actually why i am wrong...if that makes sense.
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@hibbo'sclass pointed us in the direction of a standard method for valuing a football club mate. Take a look at the link in my post below. It gives a simple formula which you can plug the numbers in from the accounts

hibbo'sclass said:
If anyone can be bothered, for a valuation using a non-standard method for football clubs only, look up a Professor Markham. Based on last years accounts it comes in at about £150 mil.
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Woolly Blue said:
Says £216 Million here mate. Admittedly that'll be worked out from the previous years accounts where profits were higher, but it puts the ballmark figure in the order of 150 to 200 million.
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Woolly Blue said:
@hibbo'sclass pointed us in the direction of a standard method for valuing a football club mate. Take a look at the link in my post below. It gives a simple formula which you can plug the numbers in from the accounts
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Except the ground utilisation percentage which should be taken from Goodison Park Stadium Limited. From memory it comes in at about 90% instead of 96 or something cos of Cup/European matches.
Other thing is, this gives a valuation at the accounts date, not the current valuation.
 
hibbo'sclass said:
Except the ground utilisation percentage which should be taken from Goodison Park Stadium Limited. From memory it comes in at about 90% instead of 96 or something cos of Cup/European matches.
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Growth opportunity (y)
Sell 'em cheap. Ten quid max for adults and a quid for kids for the Cup game against Dagenham. Fill the ground and get people into the habit of going who'd overwise not bother.

sageyefc said:
3pm next Monday
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It would be so ace if you were 100% spot on
#SageyITK
 

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