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meagher94
Player Valuation: £35m
Isn't there other investors involved in the consortium that we don't know about though?
There's more to this takeover than meets the eye I think. Let's not jump to conclusions about how these guys are baddies before we even know what their plans are.
TheFinnFan
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Good for you man.
Just wait till the provy woman is knocking on our door.
Bill will want to sell up I am sure he has more than one interested party the fact the books are open to one party will see Bill sell he did not look all that well - the right buyer has to come along to save our club no doubts about it!
Foot Long Hot Dog
Player Valuation: A packet of pork scratchings
I agree. We need to hear their plans before we decide they're a set of Cowboys.
I'd agree that at first glance we're right to be initially sceptical, but we shouldn't allow that scepticism to make us prematurely decry them.
TheFinnFan
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I only have Crocs.
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BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
Last month it was revealed that Everton Football Club had entered into an agreement with an American investment body with a view to the club being sold by Bill Kenwright.
The two figureheads of the investors, John Jay Moores and Charles Noell, have had previous experience in trying to buy into a Premier League club when, in late 2014, they showed interest in buying a large stake in Swansea City.
Swansea are a unique phenomena in the Premier League, with a fans’ group owning 21% of the club after it faced administration and very possible extinction in 2001, and we wanted to get the inside line on the Americans that were looking at buying into Everton.
Phil Sumbler is the Chairman of the Swansea City Supporter’s Trust, and met with Charles Noell twice when he was interested in buying The Swans, and he told us that the takeover was not something he could ever have supported at The Liberty Stadium.
Moores and Noell were looking to buy an initial 30% stake of Swansea for £100m, but there was never any talk of any further investment in the team.
“Our biggest gripe was that there was no investment in the club,” explained Sumbler.
“The £100m being banded about was for 30% of the football club but that money was not going into the club itself by way of a new share release but into the pockets of the existing shareholders who were selling some of their stake.”
There was also talk of Moores and Noell providing the club with a loan, which will set alarm bells ringing among some sections of our support, given the accusations levelled at our current board about the loans taken out and the people responsible for lending them.
Sumbler continued, “The only talk of funding for the club was by way of a loan which was not something that we felt should need the club to become 30% owned by outsiders for.
“At no point really did we ever feel that they had intentions for the club other than maybe some marketing in the US.
“Charles certainly never convinced me of his desire to see Swansea City progress on the pitch which will always raise suspicions given the massive amount of money around in the Premier League.”
There have been many stories about Moores and Noell and Moore’s history with the San Diego Padres that Evertonians will have read over the last couple of weeks, and with Noell seemingly unable to convince a Swansea fan that they wanted to see their club improve on the pitch once they took ownership, a trend would appear to be forming.
Sumbler also spoke about the deal never “feeling right” for Swansea, and that he had reservations over what the intentions of the potential new owners may be. That is something that will resonate with Evertonians, no matter how desperate they are for a change of ownership.
He concluded, “I really don’t know whether they will be good for Everton or not to be honest but the key thing is to make sure that it is a deal that is right for the football club and not the bank balance of Bill Kenwright.”
That should go without saying, but when the time comes our Shareholders’ Association need to ensure they ask the right questions of these potential investors, and should look to be convinced that buying Everton isn’t just a way for John Jay Moores to profit from yet another huge TV deal.
As I said from day 1, these people wont invest a single penny more than Bill did, we just trade 1 board room of people wanting to prop up their mates loan companies with another, expect, its highly unlikely these people wont take a wage and highly probable they will also take a loan out for the initial purchase.
SWERVE
Yeah, lets swerve it because some Welsh guy 'never FELT like' they'd be any good.
More like the Yanks swerved the Welsh on account of them being all Royston Varsey, 'this is a local club for local people, we don't want your sort here'.
Dymak
Player Valuation: £40m
These guys are sharks, and there's enough evidence available on the internet to come to that conclusion. I'm not going to wait for them to publish their own BS propaganda in order to make up my mind on the matter. I doubt we will be given the chance to take a look at their plans before a sale takes place anyway, our opinion means little, and the propaganda will come once they have control.
The Mighty Quint
Player Valuation: £40m
It would be the absolute icing on the cake if Kenwright sold us to some yank chancers deciding to finally cash in his big chip because of his ill health, I wouldn't put it past him.
He's bollocked up a hell of a lot while in charge, why would this be any different.
He's bollocked up a hell of a lot while in charge, why would this be any different.
BoysInBlue
Player Valuation: £50m
Forget a Sheikh because that will never happen for us or 99.9% of clubs out there.
What do we need?
A new stadium.
Will these people be able to facilitate the building of one? Probably yes, they've done it before, more than the current regime have done.
What makes them 'sharks'? Because they treat their sporting entity like a business and make money off it?
If they're making money off us, it likely means we're being successful.
A lot of these things that people are supposedly frightened of happening are already happening or have already happened. Bill gets a free pass because 'he's a blue' and 'he saved us' and people look the other way.
What do we need?
A new stadium.
Will these people be able to facilitate the building of one? Probably yes, they've done it before, more than the current regime have done.
What makes them 'sharks'? Because they treat their sporting entity like a business and make money off it?
If they're making money off us, it likely means we're being successful.
A lot of these things that people are supposedly frightened of happening are already happening or have already happened. Bill gets a free pass because 'he's a blue' and 'he saved us' and people look the other way.
Woolverhampton_Blue
Player Valuation: £35m
Newcastle are profitable, sounds good.
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