Leon Osman

[ijjysmith]

spot on mate. ossie is a great lad and cops way to much flack on here

Because he's not good enough.

I've just realised what you username is about.

HI LEON X

 

[blueblue]

I think you will find that Osman will be played most weeks by Martinez as he was by Moyes.
He will still get slated on for a such as this .
It simply reflects that professiona players and managers see things differently and are looking for different things than fans.
I think Osman will eventually end up playing the kind of role that Moloney played for Wigan.

 

[Christiffa25]

Other than the City game he was dreadful, to have the most dribbled past CM in the league in your team if you are chasing top 4 is unacceptable, you'd hope that was the intention in 'bidding' for Leroy fer. Many of us wanted Barkley over Osman when his form dried up, with Felli restored to CM, the Arsenal game and this season has proved that would have been a viable option, hence the frustration directed at Osman. I have no problem making a contribution as back up while his contract winds down, but if he plays like he is and he's first choice, then I don't think people can complain if he gets criticised

You seem to be ignoring the fact he has been and still is being played out of posistion. He is not a natural CM or deeper CM for the reasons you state. So IMO its a bit unfair to receive massive critiszm whilst playing out of posistion. This season going forward is a bit different because we have better options than him in all 3 midfield posistions, having said that he will still be IMO a great squad player. As good as Barkley is there may well be times when he needs a breather or taking out the limelight briefly.

 

[MartSlinger]

You seem to be ignoring the fact he has been and still is being played out of posistion. He is not a natural CM or deeper CM for the reasons you state. So IMO its a bit unfair to receive massive critiszm whilst playing out of posistion. This season going forward is a bit different because we have better options than him in all 3 midfield posistions, having said that he will still be IMO a great squad player. As good as Barkley is there may well be times when he needs a breather or taking out the limelight briefly.

He was perfectly fine playing there from August to December last season. This 'out of position' argument you keep plugging is not working.

 

[Walken]

You seem to be ignoring the fact he has been and still is being played out of posistion. He is not a natural CM or deeper CM for the reasons you state. So IMO its a bit unfair to receive massive critiszm whilst playing out of posistion. This season going forward is a bit different because we have better options than him in all 3 midfield posistions, having said that he will still be IMO a great squad player. As good as Barkley is there may well be times when he needs a breather or taking out the limelight briefly.

Its a fair point, but its a performance based industry, that's what he gets judged on, if he's as good as he fans tell those of us who doubt him, he should be nowhere near as appalling as he is, same as Bily on the wing, Jonny in CM, or Neville just being on the pitch. He's picked to do a job there, and from my point of view he isn't doing it, so he's open to critism when it comes to improving the team

 

[larrygobfiend]

Its a fair point, but its a performance based industry, that's what he gets judged on, if he's as good as he fans tell those of us who doubt him, he should be nowhere near as appalling as he is, same as Bily on the wing, Jonny in CM, or Neville just being on the pitch. He's picked to do a job there, and from my point of view he isn't doing it, so he's open to critism when it comes to improving the team

^
This

People who pay his wages are entitled to have an opinion on him.

 

[beachy]

Wait a second. We have been dominating midfield and possession this season. Our problems have all been up front. I still believe in Ossie.

 

[Joey66]

I think you will find that Osman will be played most weeks by Martinez as he was by Moyes.
He will still get slated on for a such as this .
It simply reflects that professiona players and managers see things differently and are looking for different things than fans.
I think Osman will eventually end up playing the kind of role that Moloney played for Wigan.

I am not so sure we have two new midfielders and an extra one when Gibson is fit!

 

[Pabbers]

Le Oz

 

[Elong]

He was perfectly fine playing there from August to December last season. This 'out of position' argument you keep plugging is not working.

Aye, I mean as soon as we say Bily or Mirallas or Pienaar is out of position, bam! Christiffa is all over you like a rash, but Ossie, not poor Ossie!

 

[Coach]

People who pay his wages are entitled to have an opinion on him.

That would be the club then and it seems that his last two managers' (and the England manager's) opinion of him is very high.

As someone else said the professional view is very different to the view of a handful of fans.

 

[mythbuster]

Its a fair point, but its a performance based industry, that's what he gets judged on, if he's as good as he fans tell those of us who doubt him, he should be nowhere near as appalling as he is, same as Bily on the wing, Jonny in CM, or Neville just being on the pitch. He's picked to do a job there, and from my point of view he isn't doing it, so he's open to critism when it comes to improving the team

LOL at the fact that people still think Billy was a ACM played on the left wing.

Wrong, it's a myth. He is, was, and always has been a left winger.

Mythbuster x

 

[thebluefox]

That would be the club then and it seems that his last two managers' (and the England manager's) opinion of him is very high.

As someone else said the professional view is very different to the view of a handful of fans.

couldnt believe moyes did not make a move for ossie , he needs center midfield players ,and he did pick him everyweek and turn him into a full england international, cant figure it out me , baffling

 

[neil999]

couldnt believe moyes did not make a move for ossie , he needs center midfield players ,and he did pick him everyweek and turn him into a full england international, cant figure it out me , baffling

thats one rumour i REALLY wanted to be true

 

[blueblue]

I think Osman could play a role role at Everton similar to the role RM had Moloney playing for Wigan. They are very similar type players and Osman playing a freer role could be effective.
I think that Pienaar may be a player that may struggle in a RM formation long term. His game is more about industry and endeavour than it is about creativity and I think Martinez wants creative players in attacking roles. I this is why Delofeu was such a big signing for him.