Luke Garbutt

[davek]

I expect Garbutt, along with one or two other relatively young players that never get a look-in (e.g Oviedo and Besic) to move on in the summer.

It will be difficult to sympathise with the manager when he's crying about having no money to replace the likes of Barry and Baines in the near future.

How would it be Martinez's fault? He's offering him a contract and giving him game time.

I cant believe the good PR this lad gets. He's just short of doing a Gosling here and should be feeling the pressure to sign not handled with sympathy.

 

[AndyZ]

Or we get shut of neither and keep all 3 rotating between lb and lw. I think all 3 have only ever been available at the same time for about 5 games this season.

Garbutt's not having that mate.

 

[marty mcfly]

It will already have been decided by Garbutt and his representatives what he is doing next season and Everton will already have been informed.
Nothing will said until the summer because if Baines got a bad injury Garbutt would have to deputise and would probably get a hostile reception if it was publicly know he was leaving.

If he was going to stay a deal would have been signed long ago.

Exactly - Garbutt is backup incase both Oviedo or Baines are injured. At least he played well when coming on unlike Mirallas.

 

[maccavennie]

Garbutt's not having that mate.

Probably and in that case he can do one. The kids been brought through spot on imo, game time end of last season ( albeit brief ) after a couple of solid loan spells and this season league and European game time. He's got the England left back ahead of him so I think common sense should prevail and he should sign a contract. His chance will come if it does. If He doesn't, well it's only downhill from Everton so as long as hes willing to take a step down then that's up to him. Either way players come and players go but certainly this has been the case where I think he's been managed fine.

 

[jinkyali]

He has been offered over 25k per week

Not bad for less than ten starts

 

[orly]

He has been offered over 25k per week

Not bad for less than ten starts

Will he be signing it within 48 hours mate?

Or does Shearer have to get the Cardiff job first.

 

[Carlito]

First Oviedio had to recover from the broken leg, followed by an operation to remove the pin out of the same leg as he couldn't run without pain and then a bad hamstring tear. He's only been fit for 8 league games and he's played in 6 of them. He might not of played much more in his preferred LB position but if he hadn't been injured I'm sure he would have been used on the wings more.

He was also bombed out of the team as soon as Baines returned from injury last season, and this was despite putting in some truly phee-nom-ee-nal performances.

I wouldn't stay here if I was competing with one of the established favourites.

 

[Carlito]

How would it be Martinez's fault? He's offering him a contract and giving him game time.

I cant believe the good PR this lad gets. He's just short of doing a Gosling here and should be feeling the pressure to sign not handled with sympathy.

It's great how everyone wheels out the Gosling example in these arguments, completely ignoring the fact that he went downhill after Everton had left him on the pitch with a ruptured cruciate ligament.

The reason I'm pointing the finger at Martinez is because he's done nothing to show fringe players that they have a genuine chance of displacing one of his favourites.

 

[LinekersLegs]

He was also bombed out of the team as soon as Baines returned from injury last season, and this was despite putting in some truly phee-nom-ee-nal performances.

I wouldn't stay here if I was competing with one of the established favourites.

Iirc he was moved to wings when Baines returned from injury so it depends what you mean by "bombed out of the team", both he and Baines were certainly playing when Bry broke his leg as I remember the photos of Leighton looking ashen.

Edit if you can bear to see the photos again http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...iedo-taken-hospital-suspected-broken-leg.html

 

[sd_1992]

I imagine seeing Hibbert playing LB ahead of him was a line that was just a bit too far. Don't blame him for leaving, Baines and Oviedo are both better than him and if he wont go on loan then he should leave for the good of his career

 

[Carlito]

Iirc he was moved to wings when Baines returned from injury so it depends what you mean by "bombed out of the team", both he and Baines were certainly playing when Bry broke his leg as I remember the photos of Leighton looking ashen.

Edit if you can bear to see the photos again http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...iedo-taken-hospital-suspected-broken-leg.html

I'll take your word for it on the leg break photo. I don't need to see that again.

'Bombed out' was perhaps a bit over the top, but he was still taken out of a spot which he'd very much earned.

It was reminiscent of when Moyes slyly got Heitinga out of the team by moving him into midfield when Jagielka came back from his big injury.

It's nothing personal against Baines - I rated him as the best left-back in the world not long ago. I just have an issue with the deference shown to a clutch of players that have never achieved anything.

 

[Coffee and TV]

I imagine seeing Hibbert playing LB ahead of him was a line that was just a bit too far. Don't blame him for leaving, Baines and Oviedo are both better than him and if he wont go on loan then he should leave for the good of his career

Didn't he start at LB against Wolfsburg about 3 days later though? I imagine he'd been told that Hibbert would be used vs West Ham to keep him fresh for the important European game a few days later.

 

[Eggs]

It's great how everyone wheels out the Gosling example in these arguments, completely ignoring the fact that he went downhill after Everton had left him on the pitch with a ruptured cruciate ligament.

The reason I'm pointing the finger at Martinez is because he's done nothing to show fringe players that they have a genuine chance of displacing one of his favourites.

.......managers will inevitably pick their best players and Baines is our best LB. Garbutt was always going to be a bit part player and he is exercising his right to leave. We will get players on Bosman, we will lose players on Bosman, it's something we have to accept. Everton cannot force players to renew contracts, they consider their options and Garbutt understandably wants to move on.

 

[davek]

It's great how everyone wheels out the Gosling example in these arguments, completely ignoring the fact that he went downhill after Everton had left him on the pitch with a ruptured cruciate ligament.

The reason I'm pointing the finger at Martinez is because he's done nothing to show fringe players that they have a genuine chance of displacing one of his favourites.

The 'favourite' in question is England's LB.

I dont see what Martinez has done wrong here:

offered Garbutt a good contract (by all accounts) - check
given Garbutt game time - check
ignored idiotic snide retweets by Garbutt that would have earned a kick in the bollocks from most other managers - check

This lad is being overly accommodated, imo. Personally I'd punt the no mark prima donna a long way down the road. Get a fee off the tribunal and move on is what Everton should do. I've heard enough about this feller to have alarm bells ringing about his attitude.

Some friggin haircut dictating terms to Everton and people defending him for it and attacking the manager - unreal.

 

[Brennan]

I expect Garbutt, along with one or two other relatively young players that never get a look-in (e.g Oviedo and Besic) to move on in the summer.

It will be difficult to sympathise with the manager when he's crying about having no money to replace the likes of Barry and Baines in the near future.

Besic has played 29 games. Are you on drugs ?