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Match Thread Manchester City(1) Vs Everton(2) - Capital One Cup - Semi Final 2nd Leg - Weds 27th Jan - 19:45 KO

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BlueToff said:
The reason for why Everton is viewed as a 'great' club by a lot of neutrals is because we don't sack our managers when they hit a rough patch.

It is not Martinez' only hope at all. I can guarantee you 100% that if we lose tonight, he will not lose his job. Just because you and some fans on twitter say it should be, does not mean that it will in anyway come close to happening.

Again, it's this attitude of everything being the be all and end all that has been built up by the sky-hyped transfer window mentality that every team must spend £60mil per window - and that he must get us to a final or woe is us the rest of the season is a complete write off - even though we're in January, closer to top six than the relegation zone and still in the FA Cup.

Also, do you really think this young squad that Martinez has assembled would react well to our manager being sacked half way through a season?

There comes a point where enough may be enough. We're far from that point at the moment, IMO.

And it'd be nice to see the Goodison crowd get behind the team like we know they can. I've been a few times this season, and while it works both ways, the constant moaning and dreadful atmosphere is in no way beneficial to our young side.
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Agree with all that.
No one is suggesting fans should put up with anything but when you can see the potential then patience and persuasion is nearly always the formula that works.
Assume loads here too young to remember what things were like in 83 but that side had only been showing flashes of how good it could be for a couple of years and those of us saying give them a chance were getting a lot less cred than now.
Took the emergence of a leader on the pitch, a chunk of luck, a defence that looked shaky starting to click, a manager who had seemed stubborn changing it up a bit. But it also took the fans inspiring their own side.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...015/oct/20/howard-kendall-everton-fa-cup-1984
 
oldblue said:
Agree with all that.
No one is suggesting fans should put up with anything but when you can see the potential then patience and persuasion is nearly always the formula that works.
Assume loads here too young to remember what things were like in 83 but that side had only been showing flashes of how good it could be for a couple of years and those of us saying give them a chance were getting a lot less cred than now.
Took the emergence of a leader on the pitch, a chunk of luck, a defence that looked shaky starting to click, a manager who had seemed stubborn changing it up a bit. But it also took the fans inspiring their own side.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...015/oct/20/howard-kendall-everton-fa-cup-1984
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That's fantastic mate, unfortunately I wasn't here to see those days and that team - I was only two months old when we last won a trophy! And i'm desperate for us to win something.

But like you said, it's patience that's key. I suppose some people are sick of waiting, but for the life of me how people can say that we're not an exciting side or we're dreadful and Martinez needs to leave is beyond me.

I just think we're on the cusp of having a really impressive set-up through the entire club. The type of players we're bringing in - the Moris, the Besics, McCarthys, Lukakus and Cleverleys who are all capable of slotting straight in to an entire club mentality and style. This side itself may not be the side to achieve what we think they are capable of. But that doesn't mean that the club isn't capable of achieving something with the style that this side is setting in place.
 
I'm actually fairly relaxed ahead of tonight's game which for me is pretty rare.

Under Moyes I had absolutely no faith in games like this, because we'd be set up too defensively and allow the opposition to dictate the match. Tonight at least I believe Martinez when he says we will go there to try and win. It bit us on the arse in Kiev but I'm optimistic we'll get a goal , which just leaves the question of how many we concede. ;)

Fingers crossed :).
 
Have no fear! This fella is in your corner!

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BlueToff said:
The reason for why Everton is viewed as a 'great' club by a lot of neutrals is because we don't sack our managers when they hit a rough patch.

It is not Martinez' only hope at all. I can guarantee you 100% that if we lose tonight, he will not lose his job. Just because you and some fans on twitter say it should be, does not mean that it will in anyway come close to happening.

Again, it's this attitude of everything being the be all and end all that has been built up by the sky-hyped transfer window mentality that every team must spend £60mil per window - and that he must get us to a final or woe is us the rest of the season is a complete write off - even though we're in January, closer to top six than the relegation zone and still in the FA Cup.

Also, do you really think this young squad that Martinez has assembled would react well to our manager being sacked half way through a season?

There comes a point where enough may be enough. We're far from that point at the moment, IMO.

And it'd be nice to see the Goodison crowd get behind the team like we know they can. I've been a few times this season, and while it works both ways, the constant moaning and dreadful atmosphere is in no way beneficial to our young side.
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They live in a fantasy world mate. The keyboard chairmen.

I guarantee you this: if we win through to the final tonight the "demands" for a sacking will fall silent and these people go back into their boxes waiting for the next 'crisis'.

Utterly predictable.
 

Go easy first time post, but felt I had too. Agree probably Martinez last chance tonight, but stench of defeat is unreal. This is what we've been asking for for 2 decades now, a lead in a cup semi final with probably the biggest away following of any team this year and a chance to beat the red [Poor language removed] in the final. Pinch yerself boys, Id sooner be here than getting knocked in the first round.
 
2-1 up after home leg has always been a tricky scoreline for us to defend, off the top of my head I can think of Kiev and also Sporting Lisbon, both were games to forget. Fingers crossed we can break the hoodoo though.
 
Liverpool winning has put my off.

It gives us a great incentive to kill some demons by beating them in a final but losing to them again would end me!

Hope we don't regret smashing City.
 
AussieToffee said:
Liverpool winning has put my off.

It gives us a great incentive to kill some demons by beating them in a final but losing to them again would end me!

Hope we don't regret smashing City.
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Most feel that way. But you cant live in fear of these matches turning up.

Personally I think of it as an opportunity to lay a few ghosts to rest. If we dont do it, then it's one more ghost to lay to rest next time.

The best things never come easily. There's always a massive struggle for it.
 
oldblue said:
Agree with all that.
No one is suggesting fans should put up with anything but when you can see the potential then patience and persuasion is nearly always the formula that works.
Assume loads here too young to remember what things were like in 83 but that side had only been showing flashes of how good it could be for a couple of years and those of us saying give them a chance were getting a lot less cred than now.
Took the emergence of a leader on the pitch, a chunk of luck, a defence that looked shaky starting to click, a manager who had seemed stubborn changing it up a bit. But it also took the fans inspiring their own side.
http://www.theguardian.com/football...015/oct/20/howard-kendall-everton-fa-cup-1984
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Just read that article mate - I remember reading it at the time but I think it's doubley relevant now. Well worth everyone giving it a read I feel!
 

If ever the players needed any added incentive, then the prospect of playing that lot in a Final can't be topped.

Hopefully they don't cock it up for us with some brain dead, moronic mistakes.

Up and at them Everton.
 
The way I see it, we've got everything to lose here.

I expect us to 'turn up' at City an put in a performance. If we do that, we should make advantage of the 2-1 lead we have.

I then expect us to beat the worst Liverpool team for some time in the final.

If we don't, I'd be very disappointed.

A very kind run, and a bit of luck in our run has given us our best chance of a trophy for some time. Go and win it Everton...
 

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