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Manchester United

When he was in the middle east (pre barca)i suggested we should go for him. Would be interesting to see how he would do at a big club without the pressure of being a former player.

Is the Ipswich manager Kieran McKenna now a poor option? He seems to have made 12 signings to add to a league 1 / championship squad. Clearly wouldnt have been able to attract top players and its an uphill task after 2 super seasons.

Is ETH now a bad manager because hes failed at United? Was Emery a bad manager after Arsenal sacked him?





They, like us have a lot of work to do.

ETH isn't a poor coach. However in this league a team up to be awful in transitions and without the ball means you're not going to be challenging at the top end. If you look at his Dutch counterpart Slot who is defensive first...you can see the difference.

Emery got booted from Arsenal because it was following Wenger and the fans wanted to challenge for the league, not just top 4. Hes still got the 4th highest win ratio of any Arsenal manager I think.
 

I think Ratcliffe is partly to blame tbh. He’s trying to impose normal manufacturing/industrial actions upon a football club which is based on relationships and support. In my humble opinion I would opine that he’s trying too hard and too fast without taking cognisance of the culture of a football club……..
Bang on.👍
 

We say our manager’s job is a poisoned chalice but United’s is the definition of poisonous. Ten Haag the latest to fail to live up to the indelible standards set by Sir Alex

It shows how football has changed in a way and how everyone’s idea of success has been conditioned by Sky Sports and the like and driven more toward revenue and CL qualification. It used to be about winning trophies.

Ten Hag won two trophies in two seasons.

Arteta has won one in five years.

Emery hasn’t won any with Villa.

Interesting how the narratives around all three are different.

An observation is all.
 
It shows how football has changed in a way and how everyone’s idea of success has been conditioned by Sky Sports and the like and driven more toward revenue and CL qualification. It used to be about winning trophies.

Ten Hag won two trophies in two seasons.

Arteta has won one in five years.

Emery hasn’t won any with Villa.

Interesting how the narratives around all three are different.

An observation is all.
Well give Emery a chance ffs. :lol:

He joined Villa when they were on the verge of being dragged into a relegation battle, and not only got them safe but actually qualified for Europe in the same season, then got them into the Champions League in their very next season by finishing fourth.

Villa spent about 60m net in his first summer transfer window, then about 30m net in his second. I suppose almost 100m net across two seasons is more than most clubs spend in the Premier League (unless you're cheats like Chelsea and City).

He now has a young squad with incredible depth that should give them a great chance to remain in and around the top four for seasons to come.

I'd say Arteta definitely should have done more with Arsenal, and Ten Hag should probably have done better with the money United have spent, although one Champions League qualification and two domestic cups wins in two seasons isn't particularly bad given how far United have fallen in recent years. I guess it would have been hard to come in and instantly have performed that much better.
 
People liked the idea of ETH because his name sounds footbally and gives reminiscence of the glory days of Dutch football when in reality, Dutch football is utterly crap now and should be avoided.

I say all this having never watched a second of Dutch football in my life
 

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