2019/20 Marcel Brands

[Stephenlloyd]

I don't think we will be buying 3/4 players who are established and will go in as we seem to have done that over the last two years and its failed spectacularly. I agree to an extent but it seems the cost cutting is taking place.

I don't expect we will sell 2 or 3 every season but I would expect one probably. Look across the park. They have done it better than most over the last five years.

There is a difference between buying kids and hoping they turn into superstars, and buying young, hungry players.

Sessegnon for example - we know he is going to be great. Buy him.
Massive difference between buying him and buying , DCL from Sheff Utd for example.

Sessengnon would cost 50mil at least. And it’s not cost cutting it’s FFP imo
You can only increase your wage bill by 7mil a year, that’s one new player on 140k a week. The only other way is upgrade on sponsorship deal and profit on player sales. I could be wrong on the player sales, I’m sure some one on here will put me right.

That’s why LFC were always selling coutinho, so they could pay the wages for VVD Kieta and they can buy one or two more players this summer on big wages.

We are selling high earners to give us more room this summer.

 

[Neiler]

I agree we've been poorly managed. The governance of this club is shocking. We've gone from a period where we had value for money in the pre-Moshiri era to a point now where we are seeing an utter piss-take....the latter happening in a genuine attempt, I concede, to make a leap forward. There has to be a happy median we can get where cash is spent in a targeted way. However, we exist in an industry where clubs around us never mind the elite are capable of trumping us in the race for good players if we slip off the market rate.

In short: I think we're being prepared for a reduction in spending that will be sold as 'streamlining'.

Good post mate, i agree completely, i would also add that we dont have a big asset to sell this summer like Stones, Lukaku or Barkley.

 

[davek]

No Dave it will be sold as common sense
If you can reduce a squad of 37 , 15 of them who will never see a first team jersey down to 22 and replace those 15 with 4/5 top quality signings who will walk straight into the first 11 for a reduction in wages then that’s common sense.
Next season do the same replace 4/5 of the now 26/27 first team squad with 3/4 definite starters and you have a squad of 23/24 first team squad players who are fit for purpose and credibly fighting for and capable of wearing the first team jersey
It won’t be easy ( it’s not FIFA) it won’t be quick , it may not be pleasant , we may lose some of our heroes but it has to be done.

Call it what you wish: streamlining/common-sense/prudence - it amounts to the same thing.

And if it has to be done then that's because the carpet bagger made a catastrophic error of judgement in hiring Koeman. HE has placed us in a position where cuts will be made at a time when all around us will be spending more on fees and wages - he allowed that Dutch divvy to front load spending and cram all our cash spending into one insane summer when £200M was to all intents and purposes flushed down the toilet.

Brands will no doubt fit the bill for Moshiri because he's got experience in managing finances as well as restructuring the playing side of things.

 

[matty1878]

Come on....

 

[davek]

What happens now Dave when Silva comes in ?

Do we support our manager(as we did with Koeman) and let him buy the players that he feels he needs(as we did with Koeman) or do we go back to financial prudence and restrict the budget our manager has at his disposal and thereby condemn him to bringing the proverbial knife to a gunfight ?

The problem with buying players is that the very top managers have made horrendous decisions and you have to expect we will make mistakes as well as it is a very subjective business.

We have to decide where we are going, look at the money City spent and wasted before they got it right . I know we don't have their resources and you would hope not to waste as much as they did but when you say the governance is shocking I wonder what you would suggest to improve it... apart from hiring the right manager and buying only the right players.

Whoever comes in will be presented with a fait accompli on players they cant and can go for - and in all likelihood a slate of players for each position that are achievable. The club will be unrecognisable from the way it was run under Moshiri in the last two years, with a lot less of the £20M-£30M fees.

We better get used to a tight plan from now on. Appealing to Kenwright/Moshiri to get the chequebook out will have no relevance whatsoever. After a stuttering start to the DoF system this feller Brands will be the real deal. For good or bad.

 

[davek]

If the quality of the squad improves and we save on our current wage bill... win win mate. But lets wait and see what happens. Give Brands a chance to make his mark.

I will do. I am wary of the small world he's operated in though. His dealings have almost exclusively been with Dutch managers and Dutch players and it's been small-time in comparison with the PL and its demands.

 

[Goat]

Whoever comes in will be presented with a fait accompli on players they cant and can go for - and in all likelihood a slate of players for each position that are achievable. The club will be unrecognisable from the way it was run under Moshiri in the last two years, with a lot less of the £20M-£30M fees.

We better get used to a tight plan from now on. Appealing to Kenwright/Moshiri to get the chequebook out will have no relevance whatsoever. After a stuttering start to the DoF system this feller Brands will be the real deal. For good or bad.

We will break our transfer record this Summer.

Take that to the bank David.

 

[Goat]

I will do. I am wary of the small world he's operated in though. His dealings have almost exclusively been with Dutch managers and Dutch players and it's been small-time in comparison with the PL and its demands.

HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAA

Heres a list of clubs Brands has bought from in the last 3 years.

Pachura in Mexico
Velez in Argieland
OsmanFC in Turkey
Stuttgart in Germany
Newcastle in England
Chelsea in England
Man City in England
Nacional in Urg
Espanyol in Spain
Manaco in France
Al Arabi in Qatar
Valencia in Spain
Chelsea in England
Elche in Spain

I mean it Dave, leave Brands alone.

 

[chazzle_dazzle]

We will break our transfer record this Summer.

Take that to the bank David.

Really think we will beat Icelands transfer fee???

Dont think its out the question, but I'll be shocked to the core if we do.

 

[Goat]

Really think we will beat Icelands transfer fee???

Dont think its out the question, but I'll be shocked to the core if we do.

Im not sure anybody is quite ready for the prices waived about this Summer.

 

[Frang]

HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAA

Heres a list of clubs Brands has bought from in the last 3 years.

Pachura in Mexico
Velez in Argieland
OsmanFC in Turkey
Stuttgart in Germany
Newcastle in England
Chelsea in England
Man City in England
Nacional in Urg
Espanyol in Spain
Manaco in France
Al Arabi in Qatar
Valencia in Spain
Chelsea in England
Elche in Spain

I mean it Dave, leave Brands alone.

 

[jinkyali]

Sessengnon would cost 50mil at least. And it’s not cost cutting it’s FFP imo
You can only increase your wage bill by 7mil a year, that’s one new player on 140k a week. The only other way is upgrade on sponsorship deal and profit on player sales. I could be wrong on the player sales, I’m sure some one on here will put me right.

That’s why LFC were always selling coutinho, so they could pay the wages for VVD Kieta and they can buy one or two more players this summer on big wages.

We are selling high earners to give us more room this summer.

£50m. Behave.

It will be south of £30m.

As I said, we will also need to increase our commercial revenues.

Selling high earners this wont give us room this summer as I believe the FFP for this summer is from the previous accounting period; thus the sales wont be recognised in this financial year.

 

[davek]

HAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAA

Heres a list of clubs Brands has bought from in the last 3 years.

Pachura in Mexico
Velez in Argieland
OsmanFC in Turkey
Stuttgart in Germany
Newcastle in England
Chelsea in England
Man City in England
Nacional in Urg
Espanyol in Spain
Manaco in France
Al Arabi in Qatar
Valencia in Spain
Chelsea in England
Elche in Spain

I mean it Dave, leave Brands alone.

The players who were a success were al from Dutch clubs. Strootman, Mertens, Vijnaldum, Depay.

 

[mahermi1]

Call it what you wish: streamlining/common-sense/prudence - it amounts to the same thing.

And if it has to be done then that's because the carpet bagger made a catastrophic error of judgement in hiring Koeman. HE has placed us in a position where cuts will be made at a time when all around us will be spending more on fees and wages - he allowed that Dutch divvy to front load spending and cram all our cash spending into one insane summer when £200M was to all intents and purposes flushed down the toilet.

Brands will no doubt fit the bill for Moshiri because he's got experience in managing finances as well as restructuring the playing side of things.

Made a catastrophic mistake hiring Koeman ? Most Everton fans were happy with Koeman, a big name who had performed admirably with Southampton previously.

 

[davek]

We will break our transfer record this Summer.

Take that to the bank David.

That's unlikely. If you pay over £45M for a player then they are superstars and will require that type of wage. You cant hold the line on wage discipline within a club by doing that. If the objective now is to prune wages as a proportion of revenue then you're more likely to see chances taken on decent prospects. I have no bother with that as long as it produces results. I dont fetishise cash and if you can make less go further then that's great. However, I do wonder in the PL how that can be made to work. In other leagues where cash isn't king then maybe. And that is going to be a big testing ground for Brands. Eredivisie in all its aspects is primitive compared to this league.