2019/20 Marcel Brands

[tungetango]

Honestly, sometimes I agree with you all.

 

[PeregrineT]

People were not split on Klaassen, it was only @davek who said he was not worth it. Look back and everyone was going over the top with praise for Walsh in July last year.

Thats not even close to true, people were posting charts of how little he was involved in buildup and all kinds of things when he was signed, and there were a lot of arguments about it. You're love for Davek not withstanding, as much as he'd love to be the only bearer of bad news, the only 4 who received mostly universal praise were Pickford, Keane, Sandro, and Onyekuru

 

[orly]

People were not split on Klaassen, it was only @davek who said he was not worth it. Look back and everyone was going over the top with praise for Walsh in July last year.

????????

 

[davek]

I'll play it back again when I get a chance. The only time he mentioned Brands from memory is at the very start of the presser when he actually went out of his way to praise him.

That was the only time he mentioned him, yes. However, he was clearly talking about 'the market' in the narrow definition of value for money more than the time period you have to wait to get players in. I dont know. Maybe he did mean both.

 

[davek]

Did the WC get in the way?

For everyone, probably.

 

[davek]

So easy that our previous, highly paid Director of Football couldn’t do it...

Actually, he could identify decent players: Gueye and Lookman were defo down to him IMO.

Maybe if he'd been left in peace to work alone rather than have to kow tow to some clueless Dutch nobhead he'd have unearthed a few more.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Actually, he could identify decent players: Gueye and Lookman were defo down to him IMO.

Maybe if he'd been left in peace to work alone rather than have to kow tow to some clueless Dutch nobhead he'd have unearthed a few more.

Or “maybe if he’d had the strength of character, confidence in his own abilities and knowledge of his role and how to do it, he could have carried out his duties more effectively”

 

[Frang]

Actually, he could identify decent players: Gueye and Lookman were defo down to him IMO.

Maybe if he'd been left in peace to work alone rather than have to kow tow to some clueless Dutch nobhead he'd have unearthed a few more.

no dave, he was a useless , embarrassing PE teacher

 

[davek]

no dave, he was a useless , embarrassing PE teacher

His time at Leicester says not.

 

[Frang]

His time at Leicester says not.

im sure leicster sold almost all of his signings after season one.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

His time at Leicester says not.

That time when he was doing a completely different (and far less complex) job, aye?

 

[davek]

That time when he was doing a completely different (and far less complex) job, aye?

Was his job that different here? Look at players and bring them before the manager to ok.

If you have a clueless get like Koeman determined to ignore you and throw £45M at a 28 year old then that really wasn't his fault.

It was Koeman's mess not Walsh's.

 

[BirkenheadBlue]

Was his job that different here? Look at players and bring them before the manager to ok.

If you have a clueless get like Koeman determined to ignore you and throw £45M at a 28 year old then that really wasn't his fault.

It was Koeman's mess not Walsh's.

He wasn’t a Director of Football. Now there’s certainly a good argument that he just shouldn’t have been given the job, but presumably he also claimed that he could do the job. He demonstrably couldn’t.

As for Koeman, he worked with a DoF (albeit with a slightly different title) at Southampton with a reasonable amount of success.

No one is saying Walsh can’t identify players - his career says he can - but he wasn’t employed to be a scout.

 

[trueblue84]

Was his job that different here? Look at players and bring them before the manager to ok.

If you have a clueless get like Koeman determined to ignore you and throw £45M at a 28 year old then that really wasn't his fault.

It was Koeman's mess not Walsh's.

If you've got a DoF that can't keep the manager in check, he's not fit for purpose. Whether Walsh was directly responsible for our signings or not, he failed at his job.

 

[Goat]

Was his job that different here? Look at players and bring them before the manager to ok.

If you have a clueless get like Koeman determined to ignore you and throw £45M at a 28 year old then that really wasn't his fault.

It was Koeman's mess not Walsh's.

His job here was vastly different to the 1 he had there.

You only have to compare and contrast the job he did to the 1 Brands has done in 6weeks.

Walsh bought players with an average age of 29, Brands bought players with an average age of 23.

Its chalk and cheese.