2019/20 Marcel Brands

[rochdaleblue]

Rumour around Man U are going to appoint a DoF!!!.

Well they can stick their nose in some where else.

Read somewhere Jose has spent something like 400m. They are no nearer to closing the gap on city despite this outlay. They have always been able to attract players due to their standing in the game, whether they have attracted the right players is debatable. It doesn’t surprise me they are looking to a DOF as their transfer strategy seems along the lines of us under Koeman - leaving them a large yet underperforming squad.

 

[tsubaki]

Rumour around Man U are going to appoint a DoF!!!.

Well they can stick their nose in some where else.

 

[Paul Rideout]

Build a statue, Build a statue, and put Marcel on the top...

 

[The binman chronicles]

I think a DoF should own a small percentage of the club, if he improves the side year on year he has the chance to boost the value of his shares, which gives a bit more focus to the job if there is a chance you could get a good few million when you leave. Walsh would have ended up paying back money...

 

[Zatara]

Was his job that different here? Look at players and bring them before the manager to ok.

If you have a clueless get like Koeman determined to ignore you and throw £45M at a 28 year old then that really wasn't his fault.

It was Koeman's mess not Walsh's.

His job here was vastly different to the 1 he had there.

You only have to compare and contrast the job he did to the 1 Brands has done in 6weeks.

Walsh bought players with an average age of 29, Brands bought players with an average age of 23.

Its chalk and cheese.

Im glad you notice and recognise the signings of u25 year old players GOAT.

Id also be interested to understand why you feel we should keep players of 29 such as Sigurdsson + Walcott?

Surely if you applaud the signing policy of u25s then you would be happy to recycle the 29 year olds in order to reinvest in the strategy you have bought into?

Bolasie being the useless one we need to sell
Sigurdsson + Walcott being decent players
Coleman being an inspiration + very good

Where does brands act and where does he make an exception?

 

[roy vernon]

The hope is that the incomings give the ones who'll start the season a kick up the backside enough that they stuck a few decent performances before they get replaced.

Remember in bobbies first season didn't we get only 3 points first three games until deadline day when we signed Barry, Lukaku etc?

Btw I think Gomez will go on to be one of the signings of this summer, sometimes a player just needs the right club and as importantly the right manager for them. Been a hell of s lot of players over the years who fit into that category.

Gomez.was.one hell of a player with Valencia. Great first touch good eye for a pass. Barca overwhelmed him and he lost his confidence. There is a great player in there if Marco can bring it out.

 

[catcherintherye]

Oversll you'd have to say his first summer in charge was done with an amazing degree of cohesion and with a clear plan in mind, one look at the positions we needed and hit tells you that, also look at the age of what we'd say was our starting 11 last season compared to how it will likely look this one.

Brought in 21yo winger, 25yo winger/cam, 23yo cb and a 25yo left back as the permanent deals, brought in a 23yo cb and 25yo cm who both appear desperate for a new start on loan so will be motivated - cherry on the cake, bringing in a young rated keeper from arsenal.

The two loans I wouldn't be shocked if they where successful to see us try turn them into permanent moves in January either.

Throw in Pickford, at 24/25 and that's s nucleus of 7 players who won't be 30 for at least 5 years.

Means the replacement of any players ageing now can be done on a slower basis 1 or 2 at a time.

The recruitment also hasn't been done whilst totally saturating us in a position, every one of the signings you can see how they'll fit into the side and the role the normal starter would fit into should they be replaced.

Something which has been missed as well, we didn't recruit hugely as usual for the under 23s, maybe the idea is that s youth coach should as a priority be able to develop the players rather than what we've been doing which is try to buy in 4-5 every year at 20-21?

There is a pinch of salt to be added that we have had good younger players for what seems 4-5 years now and made a bit of a mess of it. However there is a unique opportunity at the club now. I think if you measured each teams players under 26 we would be one of the most competitive in the league. Arguably the best in the league.

We have the names you have mentioned.
Below that group at age 21 and under you have Holgate, Vlasic, Davies, Dowell,Dcl , Banningime, Kenny & even possibly Connolly & Robinson. Not all of them will make it but all the opportunity to make it if they continue to improve (I suspect 4 of the above won't).

What we now have is a structure in recruitment that will support pathways for younger players. Brands has mad that clear. We have a manager who will focus on developing young players who will give proper coaching and will not choke at putting younger players in. This reduces the chances of it being messed up.

 

[Rhapsody in Blue]

It's certainly reassuring to know that we have someone in charge who has an actual plan. Hopefully with a couple of seasons of careful recruitment of talented under 25s and top class coaching we will see considerable improvements. Although saying that, after what we've experienced for the last few seasons anything is an improvement.

 

[Frang]

should defo have a seat on the board too

 

[Goat]

Im glad you notice and recognise the signings of u25 year old players GOAT.

Id also be interested to understand why you feel we should keep players of 29 such as Sigurdsson + Walcott?

Surely if you applaud the signing policy of u25s then you would be happy to recycle the 29 year olds in order to reinvest in the strategy you have bought into?

Bolasie being the useless one we need to sell
Sigurdsson + Walcott being decent players
Coleman being an inspiration + very good

Where does brands act and where does he make an exception?

Ive no problem with replacing every single person in the squad, but they need replacing first.

Its ok saying "Sell Walcott, Sell Morgan, Sell Iceland", ive no problem with that, as long as we have a replacement.

Brands should have no exceptions, every player in the squad should be replaced by a better player.

As it stands, for me, Walcott and Iceland are 2 of our better players, if Brands can replace them with better players, great stuff, currently Rico looks a baller, if Brands can replace him with a better player, great.

Im aware of what Brands does, he generally buys players at the right age, so going forward he will certainly lower the age of the squad, but we do need a few older players, for balance, nobody has ever won anything with a team full of kids, EVER.

 

[rochdaleblue]

Ive no problem with replacing every single person in the squad, but they need replacing first.

Its ok saying "Sell Walcott, Sell Morgan, Sell Iceland", ive no problem with that, as long as we have a replacement.

Brands should have no exceptions, every player in the squad should be replaced by a better player.

As it stands, for me, Walcott and Iceland are 2 of our better players, if Brands can replace them with better players, great stuff, currently Rico looks a baller, if Brands can replace him with a better player, great.

Im aware of what Brands does, he generally buys players at the right age, so going forward he will certainly lower the age of the squad, but we do need a few older players, for balance, nobody has ever won anything with a team full of kids, EVER.

Even that united side that famously won the league had a strong backbone of experienced players. Schmeichal, Bruce, Pallister, Irwin, Cantona, Ince supplemented by Neville’s, Butt, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs.
Experience is much needed in football especially through the spine of the team.

 

[Furey1878]

Ive no problem with replacing every single person in the squad, but they need replacing first.

Its ok saying "Sell Walcott, Sell Morgan, Sell Iceland", ive no problem with that, as long as we have a replacement.

Brands should have no exceptions, every player in the squad should be replaced by a better player.

As it stands, for me, Walcott and Iceland are 2 of our better players, if Brands can replace them with better players, great stuff, currently Rico looks a baller, if Brands can replace him with a better player, great.

Im aware of what Brands does, he generally buys players at the right age, so going forward he will certainly lower the age of the squad, but we do need a few older players, for balance, nobody has ever won anything with a team full of kids, EVER.

I won the Belle Vale U15 league and cup double with Fitwell Colts when I was 14 though, mate.

 

[Goat]

I won the Belle Vale U15 league and cup double with Fitwell Colts when I was 14 though, mate.

I was waiting for somebody to post about England winning the U20 World cup.

 

[peteblue]

Rumour around Man U are going to appoint a DoF!!!.

Well they can stick their nose in some where else.

Steve Walsh is available.....and if Jose screws up BFS is always around.......

 

[Zatara]

Ive no problem with replacing every single person in the squad, but they need replacing first.

Its ok saying "Sell Walcott, Sell Morgan, Sell Iceland", ive no problem with that, as long as we have a replacement.

Brands should have no exceptions, every player in the squad should be replaced by a better player.

As it stands, for me, Walcott and Iceland are 2 of our better players, if Brands can replace them with better players, great stuff, currently Rico looks a baller, if Brands can replace him with a better player, great.

Im aware of what Brands does, he generally buys players at the right age, so going forward he will certainly lower the age of the squad, but we do need a few older players, for balance, nobody has ever won anything with a team full of kids, EVER.

Even that united side that famously won the league had a strong backbone of experienced players. Schmeichal, Bruce, Pallister, Irwin, Cantona, Ince supplemented by Neville’s, Butt, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs.
Experience is much needed in football especially through the spine of the team.

The only experienced player i would keep is Coleman because his transfer value may be insignificant compared to his leadership and ability.

I think when we talk about experience, its all relative really. I mean i would say that if we have a 3 year plan then Walcott is 32, Gylfi is about the same and so is Coleman. Thats £60mil of assets worth close to zero...can we afford to lose that and pay 3 players huge wages?

Surely Digne and Bernard would both be 28 then and be experienced players...Richarlison would be 24...Mina 26...

I personally think we are going to be rebuilding with a plan in place for the short mid and long term...if its 3 years then the ages of the signings make sense...

But i cant see the logic of holding onto players until they have no resale value and are costing us in wages...big time.

It would make sense in 3 years time if we were hitting top 4 and wanted 2 experienced pros in to take us up a level...but not before we attain that target.