2019/20 Marcel Brands

[Nymzee]

Silva isn’t Brands man so I’d like to see who he’d actually want in the dugout.

 

[Toffeelover]

Its been a problem for three seasons for me, the fortitude, confidence at resilience of this squad, there is lack of leadership, drive in adversity and ability to counter adverse circumstances which makes me think we have the wrong characters.

I could swallow 8 mill on Delph if he brought those qualities, but i havent seen a notable change in around results when our backs are against the wall. Villa, Bourmouth and SU are just to similar to Newcastle, Watford and WHU last season. Burnley the year before, we lack leaders and battlers. Its all well and good getting morale boosting wins against the top 6, but beating everyone else should be bread and butter, we dont have the character or fighting instinct for it. No leaders in that team.

What wasnt commented about in the last week is what i mentioned of the opposing forces of the selling and buying, the needs of the business and needs of the team. Its plain wrong that Gueye and Lookman were sold against that managers wishes. You cant put a price on continuity, its taking the lower deck from a house of cards. The blend as you say up front just isnt right, it lacks cutting edge and spontaneity and its been the case for 3-4 seasons now.

Silva will make a team out of them and we will be more then fine, but its our approach to recruitment in terms of timing, autocratic decisions and of sales and assessment of character that have really undermined our start to the season, annoyingly its undermined some great work done in the second five months of last season.

Brands is on a steep learning curve and needs to progress from here, i havnt thrown my hat at him and i dont think its all bad, this summer hasnt been the best and he needs to reflect and learn.

The cult of personality, hasnt done many much favors in analysis, a flashy suit, the skirt is lifted and some are anyones, Everton are always bigger then one transient personality and subsequent cult following, been surprised myself, but maybe im naive, how people follow teams these days is different, some want the drama over substance. Hopefully Brands learns from his mistakes this summer though.

1) Burnley atm are doing better than us, which sucks.

2) Lats 3-4 seasons is hardly anything to do withj Brands but look at the managers before Silva and Brands to see the drosss that was signed of which thankfully down to brands quiyte a b it has been moved on plus other deadwood.

2) as for Silva I do not share your optimism I look at our performances this season which have not been good and this is down to Silva in my book.

 

[peteblue]

I’d take that absolute charlatan Rodgers over what we have.....

 

[Toffeelover]

Couldn't agree more, Neiler.

The manager's words even before the window shut underlined how much he felt we'd miss players like Gueye and Zouma and it indicates to me that the collaboration on spending and selling we need from Brands/Silva isn't there.

As you say, an opportunity has been squandered this summer and we'll suffer for the first few months of the season because of it.

Assessing Brands' performance is well overdue, IMO. He's been lauded for his first summer's work, that is balanced out by the poor performance this summer. I think the feller needs to emerge from his self imposed hibernation either side of transfer windows to tell us what he sees happening here. I mean, he IS the Director of Football.

Well looking at it now were never going to get Zouma, Gueye wanted out, (dont care what contract there was he would have been dissatisfied. So this last window was not good, hold on we nailed down Gomes, Mina, Iwobi, Delph, Kean, Ibanib, And are you not glad of the deadwood Brands cleared out?

As for hibernation not sure what you mean there.

 

[Stan Lee Park]

I’d take that absolute charlatan Rodgers over what we have.....

No. Just no.

 

[Tel001]

It will.

Instead of having 15 minutes to reset their defensive line whilst we’re arsing about playing one touch football between the two centre backs and midfielders, we’d have the ball up the field

A change in formation will also allow 2 of the three midfielders to find space in the pockets. The defenders then have a choice, close the player and leave a gap behind or back off the player and hope he doesn’t cause any issues

The play is laboured, slow and predictable. That’s a manager issue

Agree with every word

 

[peteblue]

No. Just no.

Sorry, I don’t know what I was thinking......

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

Sorry, I don’t know what I was thinking......

Former RS with a 4ft tall portrait of himself in his office? I'd worry what you were drinking.

 

[Stan Lee Park]

Sorry, I don’t know what I was thinking......

We're all under stress at the moment mate.

 

[Toffeelover]

Brands does not do the team selections, tactics, subbing and touchline encouragement, not even in the dug out so how is he responsible for the poor showings? Just ask DaveK who does not like Brands.

 

[technojoe]

Its very, very disappointing, but currently people are just pushing agendas they started the season with :

We needed a CB, I even said that myself and was a bit peeved we didnt get 1
Selling Gana was a mistake, for me we sold him for a number of reasons, he was very good at what he did, but for me Delph and Gmblammo could have filled the void, our midfield has been ripped apart with injuries, forcing us to play Snides, not ideal
Not buying a proven Striker, I dont even know what proven Striker we could have bought
Kean isnt good enough to play

The Villa and Bournemouth games were disappointing, I still believe away games in this league are very hard, so I gave them a slight pass. But yesterday was just a joke.

We ended the game playing 2-2-6, the managers solution was to just keep throwing on attackers and taking off defenders.

Which brings me back to agendas, I have 1, im very pro-Brands, very pro-Moshiri, im not anti-Silva as such, so of course, like everybody with an agenda to push, which is all of us, I have bias.

For me the squad is far from perfect, it was never going to be after 12months. The CB situation is a concern, but I think Keane and Mina are decent players, not a million miles away from most of the CBs in the top 6, clearly a long way away from the very best, but we a middle of the pack team. We have 2 pretty key players injured atm, so the midfield will of course be a mess.

Up top DCL is still DCL and the 19 year old fella we bought is struggling, like most 19 years would tasked with leading the line at a Premier League club.

So no, the window wasnt a complete washout cos we never bought another CB, we signed some, IMO, good players who are struggling for form, a team struggling to gell. So I blame the fella whos job it is to mould them, to sort the tactics out, to make these, IMO, good players perform at a respectable level.

Do I blame Brands for the mess we are currently in? Not at all, I think hes built a squad more than capable of beating Sheff Utd at home, a squad that should at least put up a fight away at Villa and Bournemouth. Is the squad perfect? Far from it, it has holes in it, its not a squad im expecting to challenge the big boys and again, after 12months, im not at all shocked.

Do I want Silva sacked? Nope, not at all, its far to early, we have injuries, we have new players and sacking a manager this early in the season is far from ideal. If results dont change, well then thats a different convo, but for now he should be given time, a chance to show he can address the SLIGHT hole we find ourselves in.

So im far from happy, I know who I blame, due to my bias and the agenda Im compelled to push, but I do agree its not the darkness and rain others wish to push, but then thats their agenda.

Yeah....but...welll.... what about Nut Spund!??

 

[Philljacobs]

Getting away with this season scott free. Didnt sign cover for centre backs and relying on 2 kids as our main strike force. but he wears nice clothes tho so it's all good!

 

[D410]

Silva was left short by brands this summer but Silva looks out of his depth in the role.
For me, the Manager now is the one who should be looked at very hard and a great manager will push Brands to execute 100% every window.
Brands and the club board know that the Manager is the weakest link in the club chain thus they lean into that in the transfer window - a top top manager would address that imbalance.

 

[Stephenlloyd]

Silva was left short by brands this summer but Silva looks out of his depth in the role.
For me, the Manager now is the one who should be looked at very hard and a great manager will push Brands to execute 100% every window.
Brands and the club board know that the Manager is the weakest link in the club chain thus they lean into that in the transfer window - a top top manager would address that imbalance.

Did he leave him short? Or didn’t we have the money. I’m sure silva would have loved Doucoure & Zouma, but your talking about another 80mil plus wages. Also Zaha as well. The CB was a mistake, but maybe they thought Zouma was in the bag. Hopefully they will learn from this.

It’s a learning curve for Brands to and he will make mistakes, buying into a Dutch league, where basically it’s like Everton competing with championship clubs for the best players, the premier league is a different world. On top of that, him trying to get the dross out and lower the wage bill has also had a big impact. I believe had Moshiri got him 3 years ago we would be in a much stronger position now, we may have changed mangers in that time, but I still think there would have been big improvements throughout the club and including the first team.

The problem for any club coming into money now IE Newcastle or Leeds say. You have 2 options to try and buy ready made players, who are 25 to 29. You wont be able to buy the cream, so you’re gambling on the next level of players, most likely overpriced . Which is what Walsh & koeman did.
You can get the odd quality player, like we have in Digne & potentially Gomes.

Or you buy younger players, which Brands looks like he’s doing. The problem is, you then need a lot of patience from the fans. As it could take 3 or 4 years to come together.

I always revert back to spurs. Who bought a lot of young players, changed a few mangers then all of sudden. That group started to come together, by the help of a good manger. Getting someone like Kane coming through the ranks. And players who had struggled for a couple of years found that new level, due to coaching and experience. IE, Eriksen, Son, Dembele, Walker, Rose. To name a few.


I think Brands will get it right and be a success, but when it comes together, silva won’t be in charge.

 

[Lanolin]

Did he leave him short? Or didn’t we have the money. I’m sure silva would have loved Doucoure & Zouma, but your talking about another 80mil plus wages. Also Zaha as well. The CB was a mistake, but maybe they thought Zouma was in the bag. Hopefully they will learn from this.

It’s a learning curve for Brands to and he will make mistakes, buying into a Dutch league, where basically it’s like Everton competing with championship clubs for the best players, the premier league is a different world. On top of that, him trying to get the dross out and lower the wage bill has also had a big impact. I believe had Moshiri got him 3 years ago we would be in a much stronger position now, we may have changed mangers in that time, but I still think there would have been big improvements throughout the club and including the first team.

The problem for any club coming into money now IE Newcastle or Leeds say. You have 2 options to try and buy ready made players, who are 25 to 29. You wont be able to buy the cream, so you’re gambling on the next level of players, most likely overpriced . Which is what Walsh & koeman did.
You can get the odd quality player, like we have in Digne & potentially Gomes.

Or you buy younger players, which Brands looks like he’s doing. The problem is, you then need a lot of patience from the fans. As it could take 3 or 4 years to come together.

I always revert back to spurs. Who bought a lot of young players, changed a few mangers then all of sudden. That group started to come together, by the help of a good manger. Getting someone like Kane coming through the ranks. And players who had struggled for a couple of years found that new level, due to coaching and experience. IE, Eriksen, Son, Dembele, Walker, Rose. To name a few.


I think Brands will get it right and be a success, but when it comes together, silva won’t be in charge.

Pochettino is undoubtedly a good manager, but the Spurs example is one that gets used a lot, and it doesn't have any similarity to our situation. Pochettino took over a side that was firmly established in the top 6 already, they'd had 5 consecutive seasons in that group before he took over. He's effectively just pushed them a bit further on, by getting a 2nd and a couple of 3rds rather than the 4th and 5ths they had been getting. That sort of improvement is a lot easier than what we're trying to do I think.

I also think it's a bit simplistic to say we're signing young players. We've signed some young players, but i'm not sure we've really signed enough to say that it's our MO. We appear to have been happy to bring in loans and the odd older player, and the majority of signings are just at the bottom end of the bracket you mentioned rather than being notably 'young'. I think the transfer policy still seems a bit muddled to be honest, as if we can't quite work out whether we're buying for the present or the future.