davek
Player Valuation: £150m
He's tasked with carrying our threat going forward much more than he should be. I think he's paying for that.I am afraid the shine is a bit tarnished on that one, Dave.
He has really gone backwards this season
2019/20 Marcel Brands
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BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
There are those who want this club back in the upper tier of success but not at the expense of a huge chasm of a wage bill
Then there are others who just wanted more and more players added to the squad, spending even more money and not even giving a damn just so they can brag that the club are big spenders to fans of the top 6
The disastrous summer off waste under Walsh and Koeman should never have been allowed to happen, example we wanted Klassen, signed him then needlessly chased Sigurdsson even when Swansea were trying to price us out. We had no business paying £28m for Yannick Bolasie and arguably should have paid £10m less for Keane. None of these would have gone down had we had a more qualified DoF in place, like the two men we had wanted to bring in at the time, Monchi and Brands. We wouldn’t have ended up with the situation that resulted in us having Fat Sam as manager either because neither would have gone for him as an option
I think the point is what style of football are we trying to play, are the manager and the DOF on the same page and is the DOF signing players to fit that style of play? What we've seen from Silva so far is an over reliance on the using the wings to create chances and nothing through the middle. I think Kean is a good player, but he's not suitable if Silva is going to keep playing the same system as he has done. If he's going to keep playing the way he has done then DCL is a much better fit than Kean.
Whilst I agree that Silva needs to change the system I'm not sure Brands got him the players to properly do that in the summer.
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Whichever way you cut it though, the spending on players under Koeman and then Brands has been of similar magnitude and I dont see a vast improvement in personnel.
There's continuity at Everton from Koeman through Allardyce to Brands: we are paying as a matter of course £10M-£15M over and above what our peer clubs would pay for players who should never be valued at £25M-£30M.
It's shocking to see how many of those purchases there's been in the last 3 years. It's killing us, because the quality is usually poor.
Brands has exacerbated that, not reversed or stopped it.
I follow some of your points but you do realise Allardyce is a better manager than Silva?
BlueStevie35
Player Valuation: £70m
You realise Allardyce is a specialist in one mode of football and should have been absolutely nowhere near this great club, that we still have to talk about the man in the same breath makes me sick
Simon Buttle
Player Valuation: £60m
Based on what? I don't much like Silva but he has at least won something (albeit in Greece) Allardyce has never won anything yet he thinks he is up there with the Pep's and Jose's and such like when you hear him speak. He is also a lot older than Silva and has jumped from club to club because fans can't stand the way his teams play, as like Silva he has one tactic and one way of playing and won't change it. The way he treated the national team job was disgusting as well. Tbh i think they are both as average as each other.
Billy Dean
Player Valuation: £70m
More to blame than Silva for the current mess IMO
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Commercial marketability - I’d define this as players who improve our profile across world markets. We’re far better off having Brazil’s number 9 playing for us than Sandro Ramirez for example. Same with Yerry Mina rather than the likes of Williams etc.
Resale value of squad - it’s not really in theory, we could sell Richarlison for double the value we bought, Digne for triple, Bernard would be pure profit. Consider the squad Brands inherited and Gueye and Lookman were literally the only profit making assets.
Size of squad - it’s not his fault if players don’t want to move, or there’s no takers at their preferred salary/clubs preferred price. He’s nevertheless reduced it from the methods available to him.
I agree with you that he should have given Silva another striker and another centreback. Long term though I think he’s on the right track.
Silva has his own problems though that he needs to solve with what he has available in the squad.
Fun fact, you have just made this up.
Not signing a centre half is his Walsh Lukaku moment.
Gross mismanagement
Gross mismanagement
AndyC
Player Valuation: £70m
Cut that out or you'll be taking a holiday !!
EFC78
Player Valuation: £25m
Which bit do you disagree with and why then?
Incredible how people don't look at facts and rational - just rely on gut reaction and prejudice.
The best measures of a managers ability is whether he outperforms the wage bill/transfer budget of his club.
Allardyce has consistently shown himself a very good manager over many years.
He had a far better managerial record than Silva before he came to Everton and had a better one at everton.
Allaydyce's record at Everton was better than Silvas is despite coming in when the club were in turmoil plus Silva had massive backing the last 2 summers.
It really does blow the mind that people think Silva has a better managerial record than Fat Sam.
The best measures of a managers ability is whether he outperforms the wage bill/transfer budget of his club.
Allardyce has consistently shown himself a very good manager over many years.
He had a far better managerial record than Silva before he came to Everton and had a better one at everton.
Allaydyce's record at Everton was better than Silvas is despite coming in when the club were in turmoil plus Silva had massive backing the last 2 summers.
It really does blow the mind that people think Silva has a better managerial record than Fat Sam.
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