Marcel Brands

[Yarrgh]

Have a walk out on the 30th minute to signfy the average number of millions spent on tripe players this 'kin Dutch clown has paid out.

Walk out before kick off to represent the number of premier league standard right backs at the club.

Sorry Coleman, you aren't at that level anymore.

 

[Sheedy's right knee.]

Look at Manchester City. They buy younger players that are not superstar but are integrated into a playing system. Slot of them take a season to settle but the team is the sum of the parts and non of them are wholesale names. I honestly think of Brands was working with Guardiola then he would have better dialogue and more continuity in what the team needs. Look at Rodri and Cancelo. They didn’t settle perfectly in their 1st season but Guardiola works with them and the are key players 3 seasons in. Arsenal have held their nerve with Arteta who I thought didn’t have the experience to then job there but he is bringing down the average age of the team and going in the right direction. He has made some mistakes in the transfer market and is learning but you can see a direction and a plan. If we remove Benitez we need to strip everything back. If we remove Brands we may require a manager who Brings in his own team. Ferguson should step down too and remove all the players out of contract in the summer and invest in the future rather than putting plasters on the squad. If things don’t work out to start with at least the club are trying something different. If Benitez does stay he should be told he’s not signing any old pros, that’s not our market. If he resists then he should be punted because he shouldn’t be in the position to dictate everything.

 

[PhilM]

Whether you feel that Brands has been sidelined or not there are 2 key issues which for me are unexplainable and inexcusable:

1: He seems unwilling or unable to sell players, instead preferring to have them soak up wages and have their contracts extended or simply expire.

2: He hasnt signed a single person from Holland. This to me makes no sense as surely any DOF will be able to pick at least a youth player with potential out...or even a coach or someone to add to the club.

Again while not wanting to say Brands is blameless, he/we may be unable to shift some of the dead wood due to circumstances that are out of his control.

Tosun was signed before Brands. Tosun is one of highest paid players at the club and receives a wage that doesn't correlate with his playing ability.

Whether we want to sell him or not, the player will happily play out their contract here. You could also talk about the player who shan't be named and Bolasie.

Brands has to shoulder some of the blame for Iwobi, who'll do the same, but the culture of the club has become one where we attract overpriced dross.

The last five years has meant we've manoeuvred ourselves into a position where we're so tightly constrained by PL sustainability rules.

 

[barneygumble]

Again while not wanting to say Brands is blameless, he/we may be unable to shift some of the dead wood due to circumstances that are out of his control.

Tosun was signed before Brands. Tosun is one of highest paid players at the club and receives a wage that doesn't correlate with his playing ability.

Whether we want to sell him or not, the player will happily play out their contract here. You could also talk about the player who shan't be named and Bolasie.

Brands has to shoulder some of the blame for Iwobi, who'll do the same, but the culture of the club has become one where we attract overpriced dross.

The last five years has meant we've manoeuvred ourselves into a position where we're so tightly constrained by PL sustainability rules.

Mate, you make some absolutely excellent points, a good post by large, but equally…

Brands was appointed Everton DOF in 2018. Which means come January, he’ll have had 7 different transfer windows in which to work and amend the issues Walsh has had.

He knew we needed a new right back, we tried Sidibe, so actively tried to, since then, he’s had 2 further seasons and done nothing.

Overseen the overpricing of players like Kenny, who we turned down £10m for an now will walk away for a free.

This summer, he’s clearly had no say in anything, so that’s where he has to go for me. If he didn’t want Benitez, yet we still appointed him, then he’s not the head of footballing decisions. Look at the signings… Gray and Townsend, both Benitez signings.

Had 7 windows to find an adequate backup to DCL, the last decent backup we’ve had who could actual be decent was Enner Valencia, that’s the model we needed.

Just been awful all round.

 

[PhilM]

Just been awful all round.

This sums it all up. I feel like I have to keep reiterating that I'm not saying Brands isn't blameless because he has made some dubious (poor) decisions.

But, I can't shake the feeling that he's been one part of a massively dysfunctional system - 'too many cooks spoil the broth' comes to mind.

Moshiri is making the managerial decisions, they choose the style of play (compare Silva, Carlo and Benitez) and we suspect they've bought players too.

We don't have a philosophy in terms of our style of football, so players have mainly been purchased ad-hoc to suit the whims and desires of said managers.

It's purely conjecture of course, but while we've needed a right back last year we prioritised on Allan, Doucouré, James and Olsen - fees and wage allowance.

That's not saying they were poor signings, but we've stretched the pot. This year, our limited pot was spent on bringing Gray, Townsend, Begović and Salmon.

Again, two of those have arguably been good signings although it makes me wonder whether our obvious need for a RB hasn't been a financial priority.

We could say that Brands as the DoF has been a failure for allowing and facilitating this, yet all of the above means we're unsure how much of a say he has.

Basically, I'm unsure how much blame lies at his feet as on the face of it you could blame many of our failings on him or hardly any - it lies on who has the power.

We have no philosophy, direction or long-term plan and this comes from the youth system to the top. If Brands isn't allowed to do his job, we don't need a DoF.

If Brands hasn't done his job properly, we don't need him. However, if Brands is removed and a new DoF is brought in will our dysfunctional approach change?

I keep looking up to the board for not setting clear parameters and abiding by them.

 

[Yarrgh]

Is he still here?

 

[barneygumble]

This sums it all up. I feel like I have to keep reiterating that I'm not saying Brands isn't blameless because he has made some dubious (poor) decisions.

But, I can't shake the feeling that he's been one part of a massively dysfunctional system - 'too many cooks spoil the broth' comes to mind.

Moshiri is making the managerial decisions, they choose the style of play (compare Silva, Carlo and Benitez) and we suspect they've bought players too.

We don't have a philosophy in terms of our style of football, so players have mainly been purchased ad-hoc to suit the whims and desires of said managers.

It's purely conjecture of course, but while we've needed a right back last year we prioritised on Allan, Doucouré, James and Olsen - fees and wage allowance.

That's not saying they were poor signings, but we've stretched the pot. This year, our limited pot was spent on bringing Gray, Townsend, Begović and Salmon.

Again, two of those have arguably been good signings although it makes me wonder whether our obvious need for a RB hasn't been a financial priority.

We could say that Brands as the DoF has been a failure for allowing and facilitating this, yet all of the above means we're unsure how much of a say he has.

Basically, I'm unsure how much blame lies at his feet as on the face of it you could blame many of our failings on him or hardly any - it lies on who has the power.

We have no philosophy, direction or long-term plan and this comes from the youth system to the top. If Brands isn't allowed to do his job, we don't need a DoF.

If Brands hasn't done his job properly, we don't need him. However, if Brands is removed and a new DoF is brought in will our dysfunctional approach change?

I keep looking up to the board for not setting clear parameters and abiding by them.

Sorry mate, I know this a long post and I’m. It deliberately choosing to not pick it up, because the reality is, this is the most aligned post to my feelings.

But the reality is, Moshiri appointed Marcel Brands as DOF, directors of Football are meant to literally run the football aspect and it’s not happening.

His role has basically been ruled null, by Moshiri and Usmanov appointing Benitez against his wishes. Cut ties.

 

[davek]

Ok that’s a fair argument but I don’t think he’s been given the authority since Ancelloti arrived. Our football model would always be non existent with big name managers. Especially in the position we are in because they wouldn’t accept it. If we get rid of brands maybe we remove the DOF altogether because the club aren’t mature enough to put this in place. The only way it would have a chance of working is if we got demoted to the championship. We could then remove slot of deadwood and rebuild properly. At the moment it feels like we distinguish one fire and another starts. I don’t know how you feel about that but it’s a huge job. I don’t think the best manager in the world can do it alone. We need a team of people pulling in the same direction and knowing what’s needed but I just can’t see fan demonstrations changing it. We need some transparency of where we are going but there is no chance of that with our board.

So we return to the beginning: why should we employ a DoF who is ignored?

 

[Bob Elstone]

He’s been useless. If you give him the benefit of the doubt and say he’s been overruled in the buying process by managers like ancelotti and co yet he’s still stuck around and signed a new multimillion dollar contract, why’s he sticking around taking a fat salary whilst having no power to do the job.

Going into this season with no cover in key positions is on him. 100%.

 

[Houghty19]

Just getting rid of him isn't the magic wand being waved and all problems melt away, the problems run much deeper than who's DoF. To just get rid and do nothing else but replace with a.n.other bod won't sort it, it would be like throwing the bloke overboard who put coal in the engines on the Titanic. Hopefully whatever is done we don't end up like the Titanic but the last few months suggest we're defo aiming for the iceberg.

 

[davek]

Walk out before kick off to represent the number of premier league standard right backs at the club.

Sorry Coleman, you aren't at that level anymore.

Walk out on the 3rd minute and return on the 5th minute - to represent the day of the month Iwobi was born on and the month he was born in.

 

[blueconverse]

Just getting rid of him isn't the magic wand being waved and all problems melt away, the problems run much deeper than who's DoF. To just get rid and do nothing else but replace with a.n.other bod won't sort it, it would be like throwing the bloke overboard who put coal in the engines on the Titanic. Hopefully whatever is done we don't end up like the Titanic but the last few months suggest we're defo aiming for the iceberg.

No right back cover after 3 seasons from trialling Sidibe
No left back cover at all this season
Signing slow midfielders
Iwobi.

Hes not all to blame but he is terrible at his job so needs to go

 

[JohnJq]

Now chasing an Iranian forward to potentially replace Richarlisson. Moshiri is Iranian, so maybe neither Brands nor Benitez running our scouting..

https://www.[Publication is blackli...al-in-free-everton-swoop-for-99k-a-week-star/

 

[Yarrgh]

Walk out on the 3rd minute and return on the 5th minute - to represent the day of the month Iwobi was born on and the month he was born in.

There's so many reasons for leaving and returning we could play the hokey cokey all through the game.

 

[PhilM]

No right back cover after 3 seasons from trialling Sidibe
No left back cover at all this season
Signing slow midfielders
Iwobi.

Hes not all to blame but he is terrible at his job so needs to go

Yet, in that time we've signed Rondon, James, Allan, Doucouré, Olsen (loan), Begović, Townsend and Lonergan, who you could argue were not Brands signings.

The issue being here that while we've all known that a RB was essential and cover for a LB, other people (managers) have prioritised the money to go elsewhere.

We wanted Dumfries in the summer, but the pot was empty. Iwobi I can't defend at all, but I feel that people are seeing this in a very linear way.

A right back should have been a priority for a long time, however other people may have muddied the waters with their own requests which took centre stage.

As @Houghty19 said, removing Brands won't be like waving a magic wand unless there's a sizeable shift in the mentality and processes within the club.

The owner alongside the DoF should set a vision; the owner should finance it but let the knowledgeable DoF implement this vision to the best of their ability.

Signings should come from the DoF in collaboration with the manager, who has been appointed to work within the vision, and the owner shouldn't interfere.

I think @Toast put a video on a while ago of a discussion with the Brighton DoF and it was clear that they had a plan, with a structure to implement said plan.

Whereas, we have no vision, a DoF who can only buy players after the manager or owner have chosen their own lot, and we wonder why there's no harmony.