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Marcel Brands
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The Hibbert Agenda
Player Valuation: £20m
The model isn't the problem. On paper, on his contract, it will specify exactly his areas of responsibility.
As with any business, the only way that gets disrupted is from above. You can't turn around to owners or more senior executives and say no. By all accounts the guy is no bullshit, doesn't shy from speaking it like it is (/Dutch). Once that's been said, if your boss still insists, then you do what they say. (edit: or you leave)
The issue is Kenwright and Moshiri. Though if the Benitez appointment succeeds through Benitez signings it doesn't really leave Brands with much to do, does it?
The DoF model doesn't do any of this.
Ours does because there are too many fingers in pies.
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
Yes hand him his cards while moshiri and his pally agent, plus kenwright are all still involved. Thankfully it looks like Rafael is on the ball with transfers
If you think Brands has failed, then fair enough. But Moshiri has failed by keeping certain people around and being influenced by agents
Agreed. It’s a failure to put in place the proper structures at the club. Kenwright’s role should be ceremonial and Moshiri should stay well away from on the field matters. Leave it up to the DoF. He is accountable and if it doesn’t work out then he will get his p45.
Stuartisitc1878
Player Valuation: £30m
I think I would feel far more comfortable with Brands and have far more faith in him and the job he’s doing if he came out and communicated with the fans more and I’m not suggesting he should be telling us what he’s doing day to day or who he’s trying to sign or anything like that but just general interviews about the club, how players are adapting and things like that. He’s the face of the club in many ways and has been a constant during several seasons of uncertainty and it would be nice to actually get to know what he’s like as a person and warm to him. We’ve all seen his CV, we’ve been told what his skill set is and from the limited knowledge we have of what he actually does and what goes on behind the scenes at the club it’s very easy for us all to create a narrative that suits our agendas (whether you’re anti-Brands and you think he’s part of the problem or pro-Brands and you think he’s not being allowed to be the solution)
I don’t dislike Brands, I just don’t know him. Regardless of whether I liked them or not I felt like I knew Carlo (the backstabbing snake, you broke my heart), I feel I know who Rafael Benitez is. The whole country knew what kind of character Allardyce was, we sussed out Koeman pretty quickly and Martinez embraced that connection with the fans… it helps. By comparison the club never really allowed us to get to know the real Marco Silva. In pressers he was dull and lacking any charisma at all but apparently – according to the few people I know that met him he was actually a lovely charming guy. The same might be true of Brands but we don’t know.
I don’t dislike Brands, I just don’t know him. Regardless of whether I liked them or not I felt like I knew Carlo (the backstabbing snake, you broke my heart), I feel I know who Rafael Benitez is. The whole country knew what kind of character Allardyce was, we sussed out Koeman pretty quickly and Martinez embraced that connection with the fans… it helps. By comparison the club never really allowed us to get to know the real Marco Silva. In pressers he was dull and lacking any charisma at all but apparently – according to the few people I know that met him he was actually a lovely charming guy. The same might be true of Brands but we don’t know.
Having read the article , it’s more damning of our Club than Brands. An outsider saying he has to phone three people to get a decision on a player, Brands having to work with 3 managers of different styles and no doubt different views on what a DoF should do and something we all recognise, we are a comfortable, cozy club for any player. Brands has tried to change that and the bit about the high wages and contracts we gave to u23s that Brands got rid of is telling - a Championship squad almost in terms of wages.
His biggest failure for me is in not getting in a right back. Then you read the article and it makes a bit more sense as to why he hasn’t completed this. There’s no doubt Brands has struggled to achieve what we hoped he’d achieve, but the biggest failures in the past few years have been our owner and our Chairman.
His biggest failure for me is in not getting in a right back. Then you read the article and it makes a bit more sense as to why he hasn’t completed this. There’s no doubt Brands has struggled to achieve what we hoped he’d achieve, but the biggest failures in the past few years have been our owner and our Chairman.
Stephenlloyd
Player Valuation: £40m
And people still back him and stick up for him.
And people like prenno and his mrs all over Twitter arse licking
Yeh it's hard to even argue sacking him if he's not really in control of his own job. Can judge him for not leaving but then again, got to get paid.
stretford blue
Player Valuation: £35m
It's the last thing I'd want was a personal touch from bill
cjuk87
Player Valuation: £10m
I knew there was more to it. Fans blamed him for every signing that didn't work out and praised anyone else when it went right.
Now it looks like we've done a classic Everton move, ballsed up the simple things. Either let the man do his job and judge him fairly or get rid.
Now it looks like we've done a classic Everton move, ballsed up the simple things. Either let the man do his job and judge him fairly or get rid.
stretford blue
Player Valuation: £35m
A structure supposedly put in place to stop the past mistakes of Walsh,koeman,moshiri,kenwright all having an input on recruitment hasn't really changed so the same mistakes and gaps in the squad will continue to happen
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