Marcel Brands

[MikeH72]

Cannot get my head around a new 3 year contract for this waste of skin.

 

[davek]

s…it seems certain now that at Everton the most empowered person where transfers are concerned is the Manager (and Moshiri to a lesser degree). Only this summer, Brands is on record as saying he doesn’t bring in players without Benitez approving them, yet Benitez can bring his own acquisitions in.

I think your historic guessing game regarding who initiated deals is probably an accurate assessment of the daft process we use.

i wouldn’t defend Brands but he’s clearly not in a DoF role that operates at other clubs. It would be good to know the scope of his role, he must have some authority on the Board.

I think blaming him for transfer ills could mask the real accountability. I honestly don’t know the answer, I have no idea what Brands does., I wouldn’t disagree he must in some way be culpable for FFP woes.

Spare arse part.

 

[Toffeelover]

He doesn’t have the benefit of foresight or hindsight at the time he signs a player but he’s paid a lot of money to exercise judgment/decisions and to get it right. That’s why he’s in the position he is, that’s the key skill for the role he’s employed in.

If, with the benefit of hindsight, signings or strategy don’t work out then it’s valid to question and criticise his judgement and decision making. Otherwise there would never be a valid criticism of his transfer dealings, it would always be caveated with “oh well, he doesn’t have the benefit of hindsight”.

The mess he made selling and replacing Gana, a pivotal part of the team, with Delph and Gbamin is a good example. We have to sell, fine, his job is to replace and make sure the team is not weaker. The pair of them cost not far off the Gana transfer and cost more in wages, significantly weakened the first team and saddled us with two players who’ve done nothing. Objective failure that has set the team back.

Good points made, but as with others no credit given for the deadwood removed. This is what I try to come to terms with to maintain a balance. No matter who the DoF is that individuual will make good and bad decisions we have to live with. As I have sai to others and DaveK if we remove Brands what does the club do?

 

[Toffeelover]

Its simply not good enough to use terms like good faith when analysing the performance of a club administrator of mutli million pound business, Delph was absolutely telegraphed as an injury risk. The man is paid millions its not a lad down the pub, hes not our mate hes accountable. Your also wrong on Jamos preferences he was one of our most productive players per min from an offensive pint of view. But we shouldn't have to give players like Jamo, Kean and Bernard away when we invested in them, 1, 2, 3, years ago. Thats all Brands.

Has his performance benefited or hindered Everton progress and welfare? I think there is sufficient emerging evidence in year 4 particularly and particularly in terms of budget management that he has hasnt empowered the club. Financially we are back were we started and arguably worse off as at least we had players we could sell to make some income, i have zero trust in our recruitment team to get it right, it was somewhat of a relief that they didnt have much to spend this summer, thats indictive of something wrong.

No look at introduction of Ancellotti and Benitez did they not have some influence? Also as I said in another post no credit given to the deadwood removed. If Brands goes what does the club do then?

 

[Toffeelover]

We all know who he sold, frankly i think he is remedial here too. Selling Vlasic, Lookaman, Gueye, Jamo, Kean are all decisions i consider poor and we are worse off without these players. He has struggled to replace any of them.

Elsewise he just lets contracts run down.

Hes massively poor on player trading and decisions on deals on outs.

What about the others shifted who you have declined to name?

 

[Neiler]

No look at introduction of Ancellotti and Benitez did they not have some influence? Also as I said in another post no credit given to the deadwood removed. If Brands goes what does the club do then?

Its a collabrotive role, thats on eof the key skills, if he cant negotiate and mediate with others in senior management in partnership, then hes missing a key attribute. If hes picking players hes doing a terrible job, if he is picking players hes doing a terrible job in the main.

The same thing the club did for over 120 years before Marcel Brands. Besides its not about the DOF its about what he is doing in the role, hes not the only one in the world you know.

 

[Neiler]

What about the others shifted who you have declined to name?

Letting contract run down, isn't "shifting" or even a motion adjective - its basically sitting and doing nothing or being uncapable of doing a deal for 10p.

 

[Toffeelover]

Its a collabrotive role, thats on eof the key skills, if he cant negotiate and mediate with others in senior management in partnership, then hes missing a key attribute. If hes picking players hes doing a terrible job, if he is picking players hes doing a terrible job in the main.

The same thing the club did for over 120 years before Marcel Brands. Besides its not about the DOF its about what he is doing in the role, hes not the only one in the world you know.

But picking players has not just been down to him, yes he deals with the financial aspects but look at who else has had a controlling influence.

 

[Toffeelover]

Letting contract run down, isn't "shifting" or even a motion adjective - its basically sitting and doing nothing or being uncapable of doing a deal for 10p.

Look again at the players whose contracts were run down?

 

[Toffeelover]

Look guys I am trying to just get a bit of balance here to judge a persons performance, too many point to players like Delph as though that is the be all end all.

 

[Neiler]

Look again at the players whose contracts were run down?

I don’t understand why you think this is good do you want to expand on your logic?

 

[Neiler]

But picking players has not just been down to him, yes he deals with the financial aspects but look at who else has had a controlling influence.

Collaberation, negotiation, mediation and continuity were the key competencies of this job regardless of manager - wasn’t that the purpose of a DOF.

Im struggling to see how he has conducted role has added value to Everton, materially from a footballing perspective, administratively, from a leadership perspective and financially - do you want to share with us the value you can see?

 

[Bedfordblue]

No look at introduction of Ancellotti and Benitez did they not have some influence? Also as I said in another post no credit given to the deadwood removed. If Brands goes what does the club do then?

The answer lies within…..
Ok this negotiation with Son Heung-min might not have worked out but Bill will search 24/7 for the right players.

 

[blueconverse]

I don't care if he doesn't work in Jan. Get us some decent players you utter tramp

 

[Toffeelover]

I don’t understand why you think this is good do you want to expand on your logic?

Incorrectly put, what players let their contracts run down?