Marcelo Bielsa

[davek]

If that's the case, who do you think would want the job for 18 games? I don't think Dyche or Moyes would take those terms in a contract.

They'd have to be paid off.

I'm sure they'd agree to that.

 

[Mashtray]

He doesn't tbh, go and look at his record, its utterly dreadful, something like a 35% win rate overall, managed in nearly 500 games (well 474 to be precise) and only won 166 games overall. That's not great, the other thing is that he will play 4-4-2. We will need proper fullbacks and proper wingers (we have neither at the moment) to play the way he wants. Unless we run out of all other options Id avoid him.

I understand what you saying. And the stats are there to be seen. But is there an argument that he did what we had to do with the level of players and budget he was working on?

There is an interview going round here where he mentioned that for a full 2 seasons there wasn't any money to spend at all.

 

[hktoffee]

If that's the case, who do you think would want the job for 18 games? I don't think Dyche or Moyes would take those terms in a contract.

If we want Moyes we cannot wait till February when he is sacked eventually.

 

[Simon Buttle]

I understand what you saying. And the stats are there to be seen. But is there an argument that he did what we had to do with the level of players and budget he was working on?

There is an interview going round here where he mentioned that for a full 2 seasons there wasn't any money to spend at all.

Moyes had that here and it didn't stop him though.

 

[Leedsfan1919]

So, % please pal. From one footie fan to another.

32.6%

 

[lurky]

He doesn't tbh, go and look at his record, its utterly dreadful, something like a 35% win rate overall, managed in nearly 500 games (well 474 to be precise) and only won 166 games overall. That's not great, the other thing is that he will play 4-4-2. We will need proper fullbacks and proper wingers (we have neither at the moment) to play the way he wants. Unless we run out of all other options Id avoid him.

35% win record with that shower isn't to be sniffed at. Particularly when you look at the records of our most recent managers. We're an absolute car crash.

I don't want Dyche really btw - but we're not in the place to be sniffy about win ratios

 

[BNJ1878]

Maybe I'm being a bit thick (wouldn't be the first time)

I like the idea of the Biesla "project" and sticking with him for 2/3 years even if we drop down, but..... 2 things.

1} Doesn't he only ever sign up to a season end wherever he is?

2) If he's so much of a genius manager, why does he have to stay stuck. Hard and fast to his 100mph style with our work shy bunch? Our squad isn't great but I don't think it's bottom 3. A bit of organisation might just be enough. (if we're lucky)

 

[Simon Buttle]

35% win record with that shower isn't to be sniffed at. Particularly when you look at the records of our most recent managers. We're an absolute car crash.

I don't want Dyche really btw - but we're not in the place to be sniffy about win ratios

We are exactly in a position to be sniffy about it as we need someone who is a proven performer, someone who has a track record of getting results with disjointed teams. Dyche has multiple relegations on his CV and a poor win record.

 

[chicoazul]

32.6%

Threshold we need is 30%.

Welcome, Marco Goalo.

 

[d0rk]

Spelling in this thread is awful. About a dozen different posters seem unable to spell a six letter word.

BIELSA

Not

BIESLA

 

[mahermi1]

Spelling in this thread is awful. About a dozen different posters seem unable to spell a six letter word.

BIELSA

Not

BIESLA

OK Dork

 

[chicoazul]

Spelling in this thread is awful. About a dozen different posters seem unable to spell a six letter word.

BIELSA

Not

BIESLA

Dork is only 4 letters but you’ve messed that up mate.

 

[d0rk]

OK Dork

Say it out loud and then write the sounds down, just like you do in school.

 

[everton1953]

Spelling in this thread is awful. About a dozen different posters seem unable to spell a six letter word.

BIELSA

Not

BIESLA

If you start censoring GOT for bad English, grammar or spelling there would be little left to read.

 

[Leedsfan1919]

Maybe I'm being a bit thick (wouldn't be the first time)

I like the idea of the Biesla "project" and sticking with him for 2/3 years even if we drop down, but..... 2 things.

1} Doesn't he only ever sign up to a season end wherever he is?

2) If he's so much of a genius manager, why does he have to stay stuck. Hard and fast to his 100mph style with our work shy bunch? Our squad isn't great but I don't think it's bottom 3. A bit of organisation might just be enough. (if we're lucky)

Just answering your points form our experience

1) yes Bielsa only does 1 year contracts, which was always a bit of a frustration in planning long term as it was season to season.
2) There is no compromise with Bielsa, he has his way of doing things and sticks to it 100%. That's what led to his ultimate downfall with us, even when it was obvious a few tweaks were needed when things were starting to go wrong, he refused to budge.