Marcelo Bielsa

[willo30]

No he quit to go back home to the south.

I'm sure taking them from a relegated PL side to bottom half championship had no bearing on it.

 

[Bedfordblue]

Sky reporting having someone in place by Friday mate - our approach to this is interesting - last year we had about 3 weeks of interviews, doesn't seem the case or process this year.

Not like there hasn’t been adequate warning…… points per game has been atrocious since he was appointed. Last year the El Gordo was punted as much due to toxicity as anything, results were better than where we are now (not acceptable either mind)

 

[navidson]

Everton management team on its way to the dugout.

I will never be able to see this picture too many times

 

[Cool_Blue]

We have to be realistic here, whoever it is cannot be blamed if the worst happens

 

[Bedfordblue]

Is it a risk? Absolutely. He's never joined a club mid-season but if he's even considering doing it now it's because of the opportunity to be involved in rebuilding something special. I hope that the fans see this and support it. I hope Kenwright doesn't ruin it. I hope we are sitting here in 6 months time thankful we have a squad that plays Everton football again.

I see a flaw in your optimism….

 

[brieverton]

You struggle to see Bielsa staying for 18 months, but given his record two years max. And he has walked out on jobs before he ever got settled.

And this is a club in utter disarray. You can't fully appreciate that however intensely you engage in negotiations.

I'm warming to the idea of him, but, and against normal logic, if do go down, and he took us back up, at that point it would make sense to seek an alternative as harsh as that would sound.

He doesn't stick around anyway and age is a factor.

It's not like the new manager gets a free pass with the state we're in, but if we were stuck in a mid-table rut and relatively safe of relegation right now, then as far as change goes, I wouldn't have considered him at all.

 

[Leedsfan1919]

At the risk of getting battered by this forum, which wouldn't be the first time, I'll share my Bielsa thoughts.

Assuming the rumors are true and Bielsa wants to come to Everton badly. It won't be for money, it won't be for added fame, and it won't be because of Kenwright or Moshiri or any of the other idiots. It'll be because of the supporters, the history of the club, and what it means to all of us. He'll no doubt have remembered the way goodison reacts to a player giving 100%, how the crowd cheers players for putting in tackles. For me there are very few other managers available that can give the peoples club back to the people (in some ways).

Everything about the way Bielsa views football is reflected in what Evertonians want to see from their players. Relentless work ethic, in the face of the opposition, always looking to play forward and attack. Those goodison groans from the nothing sideways passes would go away.

Is it a risk? Absolutely. He's never joined a club mid-season but if he's even considering doing it now it's because of the opportunity to be involved in rebuilding something special. I hope that the fans see this and support it. I hope Kenwright doesn't ruin it. I hope we are sitting here in 6 months time thankful we have a squad that plays Everton football again.

Bielsa likes a project, somewhere he can go in and rebuild from scratch, from the layout of the training ground, size of the pitch, backroom staff and of course, training methods and style of play.
I just don't see how that would work for him coming in mid-season, especially to work with a squad not equipped for his methods and without a fully united (from what I've heard) board.
Start of next season, whichever league you're in, absolutely, you would love him and he would have a huge impact on your club. Right now, I just don't get how it works.

 

[Bedfordblue]

You struggle to see Bielsa staying for 18 months, but given his record two years max. And he has walked out on jobs before he ever got settled.

And this is a club in utter disarray. You can't fully appreciate that however intensely you engage in negotiations.

I'm warming to the idea of him, but, and against normal logic, if do go down, and he took us back up, at that point it would make sense to seek an alternative as harsh as that would sound.

He doesn't stick around anyway and age is a factor.

It's not like the new manager gets a free pass with the state we're in, but if we were stuck in a mid-table rut and relatively safe of relegation right now, then as far as change goes, I wouldn't have considered him at all.

He’d do well to last 12 months at the loony farm of GP / FF

 

[Walken]

Bielsa likes a project, somewhere he can go in and rebuild from scratch, from the layout of the training ground, size of the pitch, backroom staff and of course, training methods and style of play.
I just don't see how that would work for him coming in mid-season, especially to work with a squad not equipped for his methods and without a fully united (from what I've heard) board.
Start of next season, whichever league you're in, absolutely, you would love him and he would have a huge impact on your club. Right now, I just don't get how it works.

Firing the clown after the bournemouth game would have been the ideal time to get someone else in who isn't then just in a position of being a fire fighter. Its why Wolves and Villa will be safe this season and most likely why we will go down.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

Bielsa likes a project, somewhere he can go in and rebuild from scratch, from the layout of the training ground, size of the pitch, backroom staff and of course, training methods and style of play.
I just don't see how that would work for him coming in mid-season, especially to work with a squad not equipped for his methods and without a fully united (from what I've heard) board.
Start of next season, whichever league you're in, absolutely, you would love him and he would have a huge impact on your club. Right now, I just don't get how it works.

The way I see it mate. Someone like him I imagine would be ideal if he was brought in pre - season to start implementing how he wants things done.

 

[BrendanGOT]

Has Biesla worked under a DoF before?

 

[EFC_FRANCIS]

Has Biesla worked under a DoF before?

His last job had one

 

[DualityNSNO]

Has Biesla worked under a DoF before?

Doesn't matter as we don't have one anyway.

 

[mbyrd75]

@Bedfordblue Kenwright is absolutely the biggest worry in anything everton does going forward. Moshiri confirming in the sit down with FAB that Kenwright signs off on transfers was disheartening. Just think Bielsa is one of the few that would tell him to shove it. It's not perfect by any means Bielsa is a massive risk but the reward of getting it right with him is so high on so many levels.

I'm much more worried about getting onto the Sunderland path of hire "safe pair of hands", fire them in 12 months, then hire another safe pair of hands and repeat until we go down. We need a culture change and that's obviously unlikely to come from the board. A manager forcing change is really the only way forward IMO.

 

[BrendanGOT]

His last job had one

OK good to know. I sort of had this as a no goer because he supposedly likes full control and obviously that won't happen with a DoF model or with our board and owner constantly poking their noses in