Marcelo Bielsa

[Lanolin]

Bielsa is different because his ways are unlike anyone else's, why he's still adored at Leeds, why some fans even wanted to keep him if it meant relegation. Football became fun again, the whole ethos, the way of playing, was something special. But it worked at Leeds because everyone was 100% invested in him from top to bottom, whether that'd be the case at Goodison, I have no idea.

Is that really different to the others though? Obviously it's different for you, because it's your club, but i'm pretty sure others would say the same about how they feel about heroes at their club. The idea that no other set of fans has ever felt the way you did about Bielsa sounds very much like something our friends across the park would claim to be honest, and we'd laugh at them.

Did football not just become fun again because you started winning? That's how most people feel I would have thought. You were rubbish, he stopped you from being rubbish, so you love him. So far so normal. I find it hard to believe that you'd have felt exactly the same about him if you were still finishing midtable in the Championship. That's my point really, if Bielsa came here and did really well, we'd love him. If he came here and took us down and then didn't get us back up, we wouldn't. This idea that the fans would idolise him just because isn't grounded in reality, it would all be down to how well he did at his job.

 

[Lanolin]

I could see our fans buying into it if we’d just spent 15 years outside the Premier League.

Exactly!

 

[Drico]

I could see our fans buying into it if we’d just spent 15 years outside the Premier League.

Maybe in 2038, then.

 

[marnie]

Which is probably why he'll say no.

IF he has identified players he wants in, it might explain the fire sale that may happen in the next few days.

 

[MikeH72]

Exactly!

I would be more comfortable with this appointment in the summer if we get relegated. Carte Blanche, torch the squad and start from scratch. I don’t think it’s what we need right now at all though.

 

[Leedsfan1919]

Is that really different to the others though? Obviously it's different for you, because it's your club, but i'm pretty sure others would say the same about how they feel about heroes at their club. The idea that no other set of fans has ever felt the way you did about Bielsa sounds very much like something our friends across the park would claim to be honest, and we'd laugh at them.

Did football not just become fun again because you started winning? That's how most people feel I would have thought. You were rubbish, he stopped you from being rubbish, so you love him. So far so normal. I find it hard to believe that you'd have felt exactly the same about him if you were still finishing midtable in the Championship. That's my point really, if Bielsa came here and did really well, we'd love him. If he came here and took us down and then didn't get us back up, we wouldn't. This idea that the fans would idolise him just because isn't grounded in reality, it would all be down to how well he did at his job.

No he's a cult figure, not just because of the fact we were winning more, but the way he completely transformed the club, from the way we were playing, his whole ethos and personality, he was absolutely loved, still is. Watching us actually became fun again. Like I said, many fans would have been happy to keep him even if it meant relegation, I'm not saying other fans haven't felt similar, but he is a very special manager-the likes of Newells fans would come and watch us play just to see a team managed by him perform.
He wouldn't work everywhere, he needs a club totally invested in him though and don't think he'd be a good fit for you right now. If you went down, maybe.

 

[Gareth Gibson]

If we’re not looking at any of these fellas:

Marcelo Gallardo
Lucien Favre
Domenico Tedesco
Marcelino
Joachim Low
Jorge Sampaoli

Then I’m all aboard the El Loco train - get him in, pay him whatever he wants and let him do his thing.

If we’re going to go with dyche, bistotits, Rooney, big dunc or bloody alpine klopp Im not sure I can be bothered.

This.

 

[mbyrd75]

I would be more comfortable with this appointment in the summer if we get relegated. Carte Blanche, torch the squad and start from scratch. I don’t think it’s what we need right now at all though.

What do we need now? A dire long ball firefighter? Surely there's a better path than that.

 

[john jako]

Either get his demands done or hurry up and get dyche in.

Too much time wasting here.

 

[MikeH72]

What do we need now? A dire long ball firefighter? Surely there's a better path than that.

Well we need someone that is capable of adapting to the dire, slow, weak minded, unfit rabble of misfits that is our current squad, for sure. That ain’t Bielsa.

 

[Gareth Gibson]

One of the most exciting things about Bielsa would be what he does with some of these players. Phillips was nowhere near the england team before Bielsa. We have players in this squad that are SIGNIFICANTLY better than what they have shown under Lampard. His lack of tactical ability was a massive issue and his assistants weren't much better.

That's what bothers me about these "we have the worst squad in the prem" arguments. Judging a players ability when he's in a bad tactical setup for his skillset is a failure of the person doing the judging not the judged.

Excellent post.

 

[Neiler]

What could go wrong:

Everton 'not giving up on pursuit of Bielsa'​

Everton are refusing to give up on their plan to appoint Marcelo Bielsa as their new manager but face the prospect of paying at least £11m a year to land their No 1 target - according to the Daily Mail.

The former Leeds boss had signalled serious reservations with regards to replacing Frank Lampard with Bielsa fearing the current squad will not be able to adapt to his trademark high-octane style.

This concern has been relayed to Everton hierarchy during talks, but the Mail report the Merseyside club are not giving up on their attempts to secure his services.

 

[Neiler]

 

[TheBigIguana]

What could go wrong:

Everton 'not giving up on pursuit of Bielsa'​

Everton are refusing to give up on their plan to appoint Marcelo Bielsa as their new manager but face the prospect of paying at least £11m a year to land their No 1 target - according to the Daily Mail.

The former Leeds boss had signalled serious reservations with regards to replacing Frank Lampard with Bielsa fearing the current squad will not be able to adapt to his trademark high-octane style.

This concern has been relayed to Everton hierarchy during talks, but the Mail report the Merseyside club are not giving up on their attempts to secure his services.

He's literally telling you it's a bad idea how about just listen Farhad?

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I assume he already has players in mind for any job he took. We may well be sounding them out and seeing if we can make it all work before he commits.