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Marcelo Bielsa

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Jim Kirk said:
Leeds fan who's lived in Liverpool for 30 years. This would kill me inside if this happened.

That said, If he fancies it then I hope he makes it a success for his sake. We sacked him out of a kneejerk reaction. Leeds fan love Bielsa - and it goes beyond the football. Having a guy who makes clubs sign contracts which have, in effect, integrity clauses, who see's his real boss as the fans of the club, who doesn't give a hoot about money and trappings of success (at Leeds he lived in a 1 bedroom flat above a sweet shop near Wetherby town centre and had a battered old fiat) is such a breath of fresh air in these days of hypocritical football greed that its hard not to get onboard with the guy.

You may or may not get relegated with him, he's a sh*t or bust type but you would certainly get::

1 - A clear footballing style, no plan B - just do plan A better.
2 - Totally honest and forthright, does what he says - says what he does type. No bullshit at all.
3 - A manager who wouldn't touch the Liverpool job with a barge pole. He wouldn't be interested in all that, he'd fancy the Everton job (if the board relinquish just about all control to him - which would be a clear requirement) - right up his street
4 - A manager who does speak perfectly good English, he just doesn't like speaking to the media and is wary of being misinterpreted if he makes an error in language.
5 - A manager who gets fined every week for refusing to do the contracted 7 interviews after a game. Bielsa caps out at 3 and pays a fine instead.
6 - He makes players do manual work for 3-4 hours a week, to simulate the effort most fans have to go through to earn enough money to buy a ticket to the match.
7 - How you do things are more important than what you do. Winning games is probably about number 6 on his priority list. Sounds weird, but is surprisingly easy to get your head around when you get into it - Leeds fans cheered and supported him madly, even when City where sticking 7 past our kids during the injury crisis that got him sacked. I can confirm we never did that for Neil Warnock....
8 - He would place more importance on how your academy kids where developing on loan at Accrington Stanley than whether or not you got relegated. Winning games, going up or down - to him its all part of the process and the process is the important thing - the outputs are peripheral.

You lot would love him and he'd make you proper proud to be Evertonians. If anyone in world football comes close to your motto, then its him.

Like a cult, but a good one with a kindly old man who just wants everyone to enjoy playing and watching football.
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Genuinely sounds awful to be honest.
 
For those who don't think our players fit Beilsa's style, I'm kind of the opposite. We have a distinct lack of technical ability, but with Gordon, Dom, and Gray, we have the speed to play fast on the counter and go more direct. We also have a couple midfielders in Onana and Iwobi (should he stay central) who can do the same. While our fullbacks will struggle, I think his style at least gives us a chance because we're not going to outclass anyone...That's for sure.
 

Lanolin said:
Everton fans: We need more stability, we can’t keep changing managers, we need to pick a style of play and stick with it instead of always chopping and changing. We need an identity and a connection with fans.

Also Everton fans: Yes, let’s appoint a 67 year old who’s never stayed at a club more than 3 1/2 years, is notoriously volatile, chooses not to speak English, and is totally different in style to the last bloke.
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Everton fans
We need the players to run about the place and put a shift in playing front foot football

Also Everton fans, our players can’t possibly play that style
 
gazzaa2 said:
Season 1 at Leeds: total implosion in the run in cost them promotion because the players were knackered
Season 2 at Leeds: lockdown happened before season 1 was repeated, long lockdown allowed the players to rest and then seal promotion
By season 4 the players were shattered and were heading for relegation
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You missed season 3, finishing 9th in the PL 4 points off Europe with a championship squad made up of Liam Cooper from Chesterfield, Luke Ayling from Yeovil, Stuey Dallas from Brentford (when they where in league 1) and handful of academy kids. Balance in all things!
 
His whole style is based around speed, aggression, heart and being good on the ball. We have none of this in the team, would be a complete mess.
 
Jim Kirk said:
Leeds fan who's lived in Liverpool for 30 years. This would kill me inside if this happened.

That said, If he fancies it then I hope he makes it a success for his sake. We sacked him out of a kneejerk reaction. Leeds fan love Bielsa - and it goes beyond the football. Having a guy who makes clubs sign contracts which have, in effect, integrity clauses, who see's his real boss as the fans of the club, who doesn't give a hoot about money and trappings of success (at Leeds he lived in a 1 bedroom flat above a sweet shop near Wetherby town centre and had a battered old fiat) is such a breath of fresh air in these days of hypocritical football greed that its hard not to get onboard with the guy.

You may or may not get relegated with him, he's a sh*t or bust type but you would certainly get::

1 - A clear footballing style, no plan B - just do plan A better.
2 - Totally honest and forthright, does what he says - says what he does type. No bullshit at all.
3 - A manager who wouldn't touch the Liverpool job with a barge pole. He wouldn't be interested in all that, he'd fancy the Everton job (if the board relinquish just about all control to him - which would be a clear requirement) - right up his street
4 - A manager who does speak perfectly good English, he just doesn't like speaking to the media and is wary of being misinterpreted if he makes an error in language.
5 - A manager who gets fined every week for refusing to do the contracted 7 interviews after a game. Bielsa caps out at 3 and pays a fine instead.
6 - He makes players do manual work for 3-4 hours a week, to simulate the effort most fans have to go through to earn enough money to buy a ticket to the match.
7 - How you do things are more important than what you do. Winning games is probably about number 6 on his priority list. Sounds weird, but is surprisingly easy to get your head around when you get into it - Leeds fans cheered and supported him madly, even when City where sticking 7 past our kids during the injury crisis that got him sacked. I can confirm we never did that for Neil Warnock....
8 - He would place more importance on how your academy kids where developing on loan at Accrington Stanley than whether or not you got relegated. Winning games, going up or down - to him its all part of the process and the process is the important thing - the outputs are peripheral.

You lot would love him and he'd make you proper proud to be Evertonians. If anyone in world football comes close to your motto, then its him.

Like a cult, but a good one with a kindly old man who just wants everyone to enjoy playing and watching football.
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Hi Jim, welcome to the forum and we appreciate your insight.

I would be a bit concerned about a manager that isn’t arsed about whether his team wins games to be honest with you, I think that’s quite a severe red flag.
 
Drico said:
So, his teams get hammered by the top clubs in the country.

I think I'll risk that as opposed to:

Bournemouth 4-1 Everton
Bournemouth 3-0 Everton
Everton 1-2 Wolves
Everton 1-4 Brighton
Everton 1-2 Southampton
West Ham 2-0 Everton

From the last two months only...

Bielsa suffered a massive injury crisis in his final season at Leeds. He has actually achieved things in his career - to the extent that he has a stadium in Rosario named after him. I suspect he'd be a slight upgrade on Frankenstein.
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So the choise is between Lampard or Bielsa? I though basically everybody agreed that Frank Lampard is not a very good manager. At least that's my opinion, so I really don't know what the results from the last two months has to do with what I wrote.

And no, he hasn't achieved much in his career. The last time he won something was the olympic games in 2004.

What amazes me most is that suddenly a lot of people here thinks that Moshiri is capable of doing something sensible and that hiring Bielsa is a good thing.
 

Grfirestorm said:
He’s a poor mans Martinez, if he turns up, that will be final nail in the coffin. He can’t defend and this team doesn’t have 3-4 goals a game in them.
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Comparing Martinez to him is silly, Bielsa mentored the finest minds in the game and is anything but delusional, Martinez hasn't mentored anyone and thinks every loss is a win.
 
MikeH72 said:
Hi Jim, welcome to the forum and we appreciate your insight.

I would be a bit concerned about a manager that isn’t arsed about whether his team wins games to be honest with you, I think that’s quite a severe red flag.
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And boy do we hate red flags...
 
Exeter_Gently said:
I want him...high energy high temp football is what I want.
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…ha, ha. That’s a bit like saying with half the season gone & us in the relegation zone I want this group of players to start playing tippy tippy football like Barcelona.

The reality is, we need somebody to come in and organise what we have to get sufficient points to stay up.

in my view, it’s a last chance saloon so we ditch the PL managerial roundabout & go for somebody young, ambitious & hungry for success with a history of organising and vastly improving a set of footballers.

I have no idea who that is.
 

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