Marcelo Bielsa

[catcherintherye]

Genuinely sounds awful to be honest.

I actually think it's a very fair reflection. But it sums up the worries.

 

[MartSlinger]

Would have fancied our chances of Bielsa keeping us up if he came in before the WC, which funnily enough is when Frank should have been sacked.

 

[CahillsCornerFlag]

He’s probably the ideal man to completely gut the squad, bring youngsters through, install a style of play, get rid of the deadwood/stinking attitudes, give us an identity, and get us out of the championship.

The irony being that we’ll employ him now instead when he’s got no chance to whip this lot of wasters into shape, and sack him at the end of the season when we go down so he’ll never have chance to do all of the above.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

Hi Jim, welcome to the forum and we appreciate your insight.

I would be a bit concerned about a manager that isn’t arsed about whether his team wins games to be honest with you, I think that’s quite a severe red flag.

We've had about 4 of them already. Bring on the madness!

 

[m hart89 efc]

Winning games number 6 on his priority list lol lol but yeah we’d love him.

It’s not like it’s been on our list of priorities recently either ?

 

[Shevin Keedy]

Leeds fan who's lived in Liverpool for 30 years. This would kill me inside if this happened.

That said, If he fancies it then I hope he makes it a success for his sake. We sacked him out of a kneejerk reaction. Leeds fan love Bielsa - and it goes beyond the football. Having a guy who makes clubs sign contracts which have, in effect, integrity clauses, who see's his real boss as the fans of the club, who doesn't give a hoot about money and trappings of success (at Leeds he lived in a 1 bedroom flat above a sweet shop near Wetherby town centre and had a battered old fiat) is such a breath of fresh air in these days of hypocritical football greed that its hard not to get onboard with the guy.

You may or may not get relegated with him, he's a sh*t or bust type but you would certainly get::

1 - A clear footballing style, no plan B - just do plan A better.
2 - Totally honest and forthright, does what he says - says what he does type. No bullshit at all.
3 - A manager who wouldn't touch the Liverpool job with a barge pole. He wouldn't be interested in all that, he'd fancy the Everton job (if the board relinquish just about all control to him - which would be a clear requirement) - right up his street
4 - A manager who does speak perfectly good English, he just doesn't like speaking to the media and is wary of being misinterpreted if he makes an error in language.
5 - A manager who gets fined every week for refusing to do the contracted 7 interviews after a game. Bielsa caps out at 3 and pays a fine instead.
6 - He makes players do manual work for 3-4 hours a week, to simulate the effort most fans have to go through to earn enough money to buy a ticket to the match.
7 - How you do things are more important than what you do. Winning games is probably about number 6 on his priority list. Sounds weird, but is surprisingly easy to get your head around when you get into it - Leeds fans cheered and supported him madly, even when City where sticking 7 past our kids during the injury crisis that got him sacked. I can confirm we never did that for Neil Warnock....
8 - He would place more importance on how your academy kids where developing on loan at Accrington Stanley than whether or not you got relegated. Winning games, going up or down - to him its all part of the process and the process is the important thing - the outputs are peripheral.

You lot would love him and he'd make you proper proud to be Evertonians. If anyone in world football comes close to your motto, then its him.

Like a cult, but a good one with a kindly old man who just wants everyone to enjoy playing and watching football.

What will it take? Does he fancy some jazzy seat covers for this fiat or what?

 

[matty1878]

He’s probably the ideal man to completely gut the squad, bring youngsters through, install a style of play, get rid of the deadwood/stinking attitudes, give us an identity, and get us out of the championship.

The irony being that we’ll employ him now instead when he’s got no chance to whip this lot of wasters into shape, and sack him at the end of the season when we go down so he’ll never have chance to do all of the above.

we aren’t getting out of the championship

 

[Runub]

Are there any managers basing their system around meek, cowardly, slow players who are crap?

Lampard, Benitez, Ancelotti, Silva ………

 

[Tin-Tin]

Winning games number 6 on his priority list lol lol but yeah we’d love him.

Match up with the players priorities at the minute.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

That’s one more than aby other style they suit.

Let’s be honest you don’t really needed to be talented to press like maniacs we just need heart (I know this squad lacks it) the crowd would feed off this massively which is also a positive.

Yep, we (the players) managed it for the last third of last season, they CAN do it....they just need to!

 

[gazzaa2]

You missed season 3, finishing 9th in the PL 4 points off Europe with a championship squad made up of Liam Cooper from Chesterfield, Luke Ayling from Yeovil, Stuey Dallas from Brentford (when they where in league 1) and handful of academy kids. Balance in all things!

Did well but similar to what Chris Wilder did with an equally average Sheff United team the year before. It was also a weird season behind closed doors (we won away at Anfield, Spurs and Arsenal and finished 10th after being around the top 4 all season) and they had the momentum from promotion.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

…ha, ha. That’s a bit like saying with half the season gone & us in the relegation zone I want this group of players to start playing tippy tippy football like Barcelona.

The reality is, we need somebody to come in and organise what we have to get sufficient points to stay up.

in my view, it’s a last chance saloon so we ditch the PL managerial roundabout & go for somebody young, ambitious & hungry for success with a history of organising and vastly improving a set of footballers.

I have no idea who that is.

Listen Eggs it's what I want...am hormonal at the minute.

 

[Lanolin]

I actually think it's a very fair reflection. But it sums up the worries.

Oh I don’t mean it’s not accurate, just that I really don’t see the majority of those points as being good qualities in a manager. Great for getting a cult following, not great for being successful. Which makes his CV make a lot of sense.

 

[jallaiminbralla]

Doesn't he only do 12-18month rolling contracts too?

12 month only. Or that’s what he did at Leeds. And that’s because he had a longer contract at Lille and that caused some problems when he was sacked as he thought his staff had a right to be compensated for the reamining time of their contracts and that went to court.

So he only agreed 12 months deals at Leeds to avoid issues with that and to make sure that Leeds could part ways with him without having to pay him a lot of money. He thought it was better for the club (and for him of course) to have a 12 month deal.

The thing with Bielsas contracts is that the club hires him and his staff but Marcelo is the one who gets all the money from the club which he then uses to pay wages to his staff. So his contracts at Leeds were messy and he thought it was better for everyone to have shorter deals.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

we aren’t getting out of the championship

FFS, you have gone from "we'down" two seasons in a row to "we arent coming back..

Give it up mate,

Youre poor missus, you must be a nightmare life sucker