2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[blue to the bone]

Some posters need to ask Santa for a calculator for Christmas.

Facts dont suit agendas though

 

[4737carlin]

The Silva haters are going to learn a tough lesson here. The club wont sack a manager again who is anywhere near midtable. Too costly; too disruptive.

No I don't think they will, but also were aspiring for mid-table, We also have to accept that.
Silva will keep us up but also out of Europe, meaning we don't have to buy to keep the squad up. Less games meaning smaller squad while all focus is on the ground move.

 

[Sheedy's right knee.]

What is Silvas philosophy?

I was horrified a few weeks ago when he said `we only have one way of playing'. Then against Chelsea thankfully a bit of pragmatism
came in and we dug in for a solid point.

However, since then we have tried to beat Lpool/City and Totts at their own game but with inferior players. I simply don't understand this management style, it surely makes no rational sense, is naive, gets the natives on side for a while but inevitably poor results will follow..

Are we trying to press hard from up top and midfield? Because we don't have the players bar Gueye (injured) and Richarlison to do that.

What are our tactics at the back? Trying to keep a highish line (v dangerous with our desperate) lack of pace at the back. Then when Keane gets skinned for the first time in every game he wants the back 4 to drop way too deep.

After last seasons early mess and then base created by Alladyce then a gradual building of a passing/pressing game needed to go hand in hand with a solid defensive unit. Even if Alladyce was hounded out by 97% of evertonians, surely they were not naive enough to think a young manager with a `guardialo/Klopp' style could come in and get us challenging for top 4/5.

High line is ok when you dominate the ball but we failed to do that yesterday and got exposed. Most people would have agreed with Mina taking a break but I think maybe the competition had created a bit of uncertainty amongst our centre halves and Silva.

 

[Sheedy's right knee.]

an actual tackler with a bit of bite and passion in him. guaranteed to run his socks off

Who like Gana?

 

[Brisan123]

Dont get me wrong mate them doing well certainly is a kick in the plums like, but if we were comfortably in 7th really pushing the top 6 and playing good convincing football I wouldn't really be bothered regardless of what the RS or any side does.

Im annoyed at present as I look at the league table and see clubs who csnt hold a candle to EFC above us, this whilst we have spent a kings ransom in the past 2 seasons.

I would also say bar Leicester and Brighton we haven't actually played that attractive - better than dinosaur Alladyce of course but that isn't exactly difficult!

Liverpool have spent 353m in the last 5 transfer windows, they have a net spend of 50m in that period.

Arsenal have spent 232m in the last 5 transfer windows, net spend 115m

Tottenham have spent 168m in the last 5 transfer windows, net spend 65m.

We have spent 323m in the last 5 transfer windows net spend 164m.

Let's not say we haven't got the money the top 6 have.

still can’t get my head around this WE buisness

 

[HKIV]

I asked what Silva's `philosophy' of football is a few hours ago. It is telling that no one has deemed it fit to make any comment.

This `philosophy' (whatever it is, always makes me laugh) was the reasoning for sacking a manager who had turned
the clubs fortunes/results around.

The only reason the current manager is being seen to have `progressed the team', `we are moving in the right direction' is classic confirmation bias.
When people clamour for something new and it clearly turns out worse than what you had, it takes an extraordinary amount of time for people to admit they were wrong.

 

[billyblue80]

I asked what Silva's `philosophy' of football is a few hours ago. It is telling that no one has deemed it fit to make any comment.

This `philosophy' (whatever it is, always makes me laugh) was the reasoning for sacking a manager who had turned
the clubs fortunes/results around.

The only reason the current manager is being seen to have `progressed the team', `we are moving in the right direction' is classic confirmation bias.
When people clamour for something new and it clearly turns out worse than what you had, it takes an extraordinary amount of time for people to admit they were wrong.

Pressing, fast paced counter attack football. We don't have every position to do it and the better teams will beat us because they do the same with better players.

 

[KaiserEFC]

I asked what Silva's `philosophy' of football is a few hours ago. It is telling that no one has deemed it fit to make any comment.

This `philosophy' (whatever it is, always makes me laugh) was the reasoning for sacking a manager who had turned
the clubs fortunes/results around.

The only reason the current manager is being seen to have `progressed the team', `we are moving in the right direction' is classic confirmation bias.
When people clamour for something new and it clearly turns out worse than what you had, it takes an extraordinary amount of time for people to admit they were wrong.

His philosophy seems to be 7-15 sideways passes across the defence before we can do anything on the pitch. Freaks me out if I’m honest.

 

[Khalekan]

That was crazy that game, but i didnt feel the same kind of humiliation as yesterday, yesterday was shockingly bad

Indeed it was not,

A couple of their goals were dubious as I recall and we had some great chances to score ourselves.

That was a cracking afternoon’s football and we could easily have had a point.

Yesterday was just plain capitulation after Spurs equalised in farcical fashion.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

Pressing, fast paced counter attack football. We don't have every position to do it and the better teams will beat us because they do the same with better players.

Yeah, his tactics are pretty well known. In his own third, he loves to build out of the back and attack in wide areas by springing his fullback to occupy the wide spaces, likes to play his forwards on the inside and wants them scoring, and likes playing defensive mids that can help support the outside backs and cover a ton of ground.

Defensively he likes to counter, even if that means conceding possession. Usually his teams will play a medium block, back line around the 25, and press aggressively when triggered, not usually too high up the pitch, but every now and then depending on the other team.

 

[Nymzee]

I asked what Silva's `philosophy' of football is a few hours ago. It is telling that no one has deemed it fit to make any comment.

This `philosophy' (whatever it is, always makes me laugh) was the reasoning for sacking a manager who had turned
the clubs fortunes/results around.

The only reason the current manager is being seen to have `progressed the team', `we are moving in the right direction' is classic confirmation bias.
When people clamour for something new and it clearly turns out worse than what you had, it takes an extraordinary amount of time for people to admit they were wrong.

We didn’t comment because you’re new and so far spout the usual guff new posters write.

 

[COYBL25]

I asked what Silva's `philosophy' of football is a few hours ago. It is telling that no one has deemed it fit to make any comment.

This `philosophy' (whatever it is, always makes me laugh) was the reasoning for sacking a manager who had turned
the clubs fortunes/results around.

The only reason the current manager is being seen to have `progressed the team', `we are moving in the right direction' is classic confirmation bias.
When people clamour for something new and it clearly turns out worse than what you had, it takes an extraordinary amount of time for people to admit they were wrong.

No mate.

It`s because you asked a question at the start of your post, which then got buried in the rest of your post, so people overlooked it.

Also, you sound like you`re a fan of Allardyce, so people probably ignored you.

Ps - You do know it`s Christmas Day don`t you ?

 

[Azza]

There was a moment on Sunday where Siggy had the ball just outside the box and he knocked it out wide right, like properly out wide, because that's where you'd expect Coleman to be, out wide as he's an attacking full back.

Where was he? Inside the friggin box! Then he does his usual hands up and huff thing before trying to jog back.

I think this was still at 2-4. .

Absolutely baffling.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

We’re still a work in progress, playing some really good footy at times, and obviously it’s daft to talk about getting rid of Silva, but you would like to think we would have had enough not to be behind Watford, Wolves, Bournemouth and Leicester in the table on Christmas Day. Hopefully by the end of the season that will have changed.

 

[catcherintherye]

Liverpool have spent 353m in the last 5 transfer windows, they have a net spend of 50m in that period.

Arsenal have spent 232m in the last 5 transfer windows, net spend 115m

Tottenham have spent 168m in the last 5 transfer windows, net spend 65m.

We have spent 323m in the last 5 transfer windows net spend 164m.

Let's not say we haven't got the money the top 6 have.

I hate to be a pedant, but I have seen Liverpool have spent over £350 in just over a year. They have recouped around £150 million. The team they put out in the derby was worth over double what ours cost. Our entire match day squad cost less than 4 of their players (Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho & Keita) two of them have been flops while two have been excellent signings (the sort that we are unable to make). Likewise their wage bill is around double what our is, or the difference between the club is about the difference between Everton and Blackburn Rovers.

We have spent around £270 million in the same period and recouped around £200 million. Or if you broaden it to 5 windows around £340 million while recovering around £250 million. For us to have spent the same as Liverpool (net) you probably have to go back over 5 years to the 13/14 season (this is the tipping point where we spent more than what they've done in the last year or so). If you go back 10 years, we have only spent £420 million on the squad (only slightly higher than Liverpool have on their team in just over a year). The net spend will be more illuminating, I haven't calculated by I imagine you will see that if will be decades since we have spent the figures Liverpool have spent on their squad over the last year or so.

That's not tons ay their hasn't been investment. However Liverpool have outspent almost everyone over the last couple of years and have a team that reflects that. We have spent more than we normally do, in a lot of cases badly but we are still a long way from Liverpool/City in terms of investment.