2018/19 Marco Silva - New Poll Added

[Baines' left foot]

Every time I see that cliche posted on here I think of Father Jack in the episide where he keeps saying “It’s an ecumenical matter” every time Ted said sommat to him.

It is vacuous tripe as no one knows whether we are “transitioning” to something better or not.

Nor will we unless we are sitting in clover two or three years down the road, looking back on the recent calamities and having a good ol’ lol about them and other bumps in the road during this current transitional season.

Because as things stand I think it more likely we are on the manager search.....again....in twelve months time and season 20/21 will become the new “transitional season”

Try and be positive, it’s Christmas.

 

[Khalekan]

Try and be positive, it’s Christmas.

Ah.....the transitional Festive season, as it were

 

[HKIV]

Some informative answers on Silva philosophy, thank you.

The stuff about me being an Allardyce advocate and therefore stupid is mindblowing. Some people would still think the world is
flat even if taken up in a space ship. I've always preferred to judge things/people on facts/rational/results than mass hysteria.

Crimhead states `and he likes playing defensive mids that can help support the outside backs and cover a ton of ground.'

Other than Gueye we don't have a single centre mid player at the club remotely capable of this to a decent standard. That is the main reason we were annihalated by Spurs and will continue to get tonked by the best teams,

Is it Brands fault for failling to secure this kind of centre mid or Silvas fault for not pushing for it and/or playing in a way that this strikingly obvious huge deficiancy gets exposed?

 

[devlinadl]

I hate to be a pedant, but I have seen Liverpool have spent over £350 in just over a year. They have recouped around £150 million. The team they put out in the derby was worth over double what ours cost. Our entire match day squad cost less than 4 of their players (Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho & Keita) two of them have been flops while two have been excellent signings (the sort that we are unable to make). Likewise their wage bill is around double what our is, or the difference between the club is about the difference between Everton and Blackburn Rovers.

We have spent around £270 million in the same period and recouped around £200 million. Or if you broaden it to 5 windows around £340 million while recovering around £250 million. For us to have spent the same as Liverpool (net) you probably have to go back over 5 years to the 13/14 season (this is the tipping point where we spent more than what they've done in the last year or so). If you go back 10 years, we have only spent £420 million on the squad (only slightly higher than Liverpool have on their team in just over a year). The net spend will be more illuminating, I haven't calculated by I imagine you will see that if will be decades since we have spent the figures Liverpool have spent on their squad over the last year or so.

Where did you get these numbers from?

I checked Transfermarkt, and Everton have a net spend of £147m since summer 2017, whereas Liverpool have a net spend £138m. I am not going to argue that they are the most accurate source, but I think that they are not biased to a particular club.

 

[Axlswhk]

To be honest for a counter attacking manager, his tactic of winning the ball and fast efficient Attack is poor.

Our pressing is half Fook and our counter attack incredibly inefficient with players not knowing where to run, where to pass and what decision to make most of the time.

 

[kleew]

Everton style of play and tempo is up there with the top 4, only the player calibers n skills aren't as top notch aside a couple of them that can carry the type of game play. And Everton played too open a game and the defence contingency mindset as a team against any form of counter attacks needs to be addressed, else opponents will just capitalise on our openness n punish us. When we loose possession, more often than not we shouldn't be pressing too high up in their part of the pitch in a non controlled fashion. We should dropped back at least to our half (esp against the top 4) and execute a tighter pressing fr that part of the pitch, leaving no room for their 'clever' runs behind our back four.

 

[DanEFC92]

Everton style of play and tempo is up there with the top 4, only the player calibers n skills aren't as top notch aside a couple of them that can carry the type of game play. And Everton played too open a game and the defence contingency mindset as a team against any form of counter attacks needs to be addressed, else opponents will just capitalise on our openness n punish us. When we loose possession, more often than not we shouldn't be pressing too high up in their part of the pitch in a non controlled fashion. We should dropped back at least to our half (esp against the top 4) and execute a tighter pressing fr that part of the pitch, leaving no room for their 'clever' runs behind our back four.

 

[CRIMHEAD]

Where did you get these numbers from?

I checked Transfermarkt, and Everton have a net spend of £147m since summer 2017, whereas Liverpool have a net spend £138m. I am not going to argue that they are the most accurate source, but I think that they are not biased to a particular club.

But the years prior matter. Liverpool broke the bank on CB, CM/DM, and GK. After they had a decent team. The incremental improvement once you are a good team is expensive. We aren't there yet.

 

[havrey0123]

I hate to be a pedant, but I have seen Liverpool have spent over £350 in just over a year. They have recouped around £150 million. The team they put out in the derby was worth over double what ours cost. Our entire match day squad cost less than 4 of their players (Alisson, Van Dijk, Fabinho & Keita) two of them have been flops while two have been excellent signings (the sort that we are unable to make). Likewise their wage bill is around double what our is, or the difference between the club is about the difference between Everton and Blackburn Rovers.

We have spent around £270 million in the same period and recouped around £200 million. Or if you broaden it to 5 windows around £340 million while recovering around £250 million. For us to have spent the same as Liverpool (net) you probably have to go back over 5 years to the 13/14 season (this is the tipping point where we spent more than what they've done in the last year or so). If you go back 10 years, we have only spent £420 million on the squad (only slightly higher than Liverpool have on their team in just over a year). The net spend will be more illuminating, I haven't calculated by I imagine you will see that if will be decades since we have spent the figures Liverpool have spent on their squad over the last year or so.

That's not tons ay their hasn't been investment. However Liverpool have outspent almost everyone over the last couple of years and have a team that reflects that. We have spent more than we normally do, in a lot of cases badly but we are still a long way from Liverpool/City in terms of investment.

Lad go back and do the maths, the figures I quoted for the last 5 transfer windows is relevent because that's how long moshiri has been here.

In that time we have a higher net spend then spurs, Liverpool and arsenal.

The figures you have quoted are wrong

Spurs and Liverpool basically have a sell before you buy policy, there last transfer window was heavily funded by there cl run and spurs never bought anyone.

 

[mkrudden]

But the years prior matter. Liverpool broke the bank on CB, CM/DM, and GK. After they had a decent team. The incremental improvement once you are a good team is expensive. We aren't there yet.

Spot on. Look at what Silva and Klopp started with.

 

[havrey0123]

Spot on. Look at what Silva and Klopp started with.

Silva bought in a lb, 2 cbs, and 3 midfielders and people are still saying we need half a team

 

[nsno-chris]

Silva bought in a lb, 2 cbs, and 3 midfielders and people are still saying we need half a team

No fam

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

To be honest for a counter attacking manager, his tactic of winning the ball and fast efficient Attack is poor.

Our pressing is half Fook and our counter attack incredibly inefficient with players not knowing where to run, where to pass and what decision to make most of the time.

But apart from that it’s great!

 

[COYBL25]

@Axlswhk and @havrey0123 tag teaming tonight

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Everybody want to play high press at the moment, with lots of running. This tactic is not as new as some think - Milan played high energy football under Sacchi in the late 80s. There was a documentary about it and the players said that while it was highly successful, it was too exhausting to be sustainable. And this was for a team that was packed with the top players of the day.

Now Guardiola plays a high press, but also with a lot of possession. Even here he spends a few years at a club before moving on to his next project.

I just wonder how long before something else becomes the Vogue. Even Klopp said he is being more selective about employing the press, and that he wants to save it for when they really need it.