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Marco Silva

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I always thought he was more likely to be here this week if Watford had failed to win today :(

Regarding the odds, Eggs.....given that on here it seems to be a fait accompli, one would have thought that if the wider football world believed this was an all but done deal Silva would have been backed off the boards and 1/10 or something would be the price tonight.

Sam was 1/7 and Dyche 1/4 at various times when it the rumour mill had those guys at the very door at FF so the fact the price is still odds against is, to me, an jndication that this is far from a formality.

Either that or we should be filing our boots 5/4 as it is like buying money ;)

..I agree, Khalekan. I know folk think odds mean nothing, but as you say if this was a done deal it would be very large odds-on. I appreciate its only a small market but even the smallest of wagers contract odds. I have a £100 sitting in my SkyBet account following my trip to Leopardstown a few weeks ago but I wouldn’t put it on the even money they are offering (5/6 this morning).

Seems like a bit to be done before this deal happens.
 
All that money spent and that team on Saturday looked relegation threatened. Honestly, I think there needs to be another £100m spent (minimal) to sort it out. Sadly there's no Lukaku to flog this time around.

It's not so much that players are out of form, the likes of Jagielka and Baines are never coming back.
Mate I’m not even talking about who we bought and how poorly the money was spent.
How is a majority of a squad at a professional football team “well below their best” or “out of form” every week?
 
The fans drained every ounce of hope out of the club, not Martinez.

People level these criticisms at him, he didn't know how to set up a defence, etc. Well, stats, and subsequent defensive frailties in a team using the same core of players and a far more conservative, defensive line up and tactics, show me that maybe it wasn't quite as simple as the manager was at fault, and that it was the same core of players that were to blame.

He had to go eventually, because it got past the point of no return, but that was brought on and accelerated by a core of unreasonable and unrealistic fans and the bizarre belief that we somehow deserve to be at the top of the pile forever more.

Sometimes you need to take a step or 2 back to move forward, and like I say, with the squad Martinez took over, it was always going to happen.

Don't kid yourself that we wouldn't be going through the same downturn if we had kept Moyes or appointed any other manager instead of Martinez.

Massive rewriting of history going on here. The fans fault for the humiliation at Anfield? The fans fault for the abysmal form in the second half of his final season?

The bloke was well out of his depth and we were on a downward spiral. Koeman took the exact same team and got them moving forward again. That's right, the Koeman who I don't think anyone on here particularly rates (including myself) got the team doing more than Martinez ever could.
 
If Moshiri’s money had come in two years earlier, when we were looking like we were really going places, Bobby might have built a super little team.

Instead we wound up with a horrible team created by a horrible, spendthrift manager :mad:

If and that's a big if we do have a situation where money isn't an obstacle, then the January window could easily see the problems fixed, would take a lot of cash like, but throw money at Celtic and you'd get both dembele and Tierney from them, add just a competent level centre back like Dr vrij and for 80-100m more the team has the major holes filled, throw another 40 at it and you'd get that richarlison.

That would be replicating the amount spent in the summer but instead of lashing it everywhere we'd be targeting areas needed badly and adding players who should only improve over the next few years.
 

..I agree, Khalekan. I know folk think odds mean nothing, but as you say if this was a done deal it would be very large odds-on. I appreciate its only a small market but even the smallest of wagers contract odds. I have a £100 sitting in my SkyBet account following my trip to Leopardstown a few weeks ago but I wouldn’t put it on the even money they are offering (5/6 this morning).

Seems like a bit to be done before this deal happens.

I'd be tempted in your place to lay some of that on Silva tbh mate.
 
The fans drained every ounce of hope out of the club, not Martinez.

People level these criticisms at him, he didn't know how to set up a defence, etc. Well, stats, and subsequent defensive frailties in a team using the same core of players and a far more conservative, defensive line up and tactics, show me that maybe it wasn't quite as simple as the manager was at fault, and that it was the same core of players that were to blame.

He had to go eventually, because it got past the point of no return, but that was brought on and accelerated by a core of unreasonable and unrealistic fans and the bizarre belief that we somehow deserve to be at the top of the pile forever more.

Sometimes you need to take a step or 2 back to move forward, and like I say, with the squad Martinez took over, it was always going to happen.

Don't kid yourself that we wouldn't be going through the same downturn if we had kept Moyes or appointed any other manager instead of Martinez.

Those nasty fans again ha. Martinez failed to replace the key components of his 13/14 side. He basically took a top 6 team and added Lukaku Barry Deulofeu and played Stones and Barkley. What a gift that was. When it came to replacing the key players Moyes left though that played so well in his first season: Distin Osman Pienaar Naismith, he bought very poorly. He refused to address the goal keeper situation, the signings apart from the 3 mentioned were generally of a poor standard, and eventually he started shoving square pegs in round holes.

At the start of the 14/15 season ever fam was buzzing for the team just like they were at the start of this season. It wasn’t their fault it went so badly wrong in both circumstances. Poor groups of weak cowardly players managed by poor managers.
 
Those nasty fans again ha. Martinez failed to replace the key components of his 13/14 side. He basically took a top 6 team and added Lukaku Barry Deulofeu and played Stones and Barkley. What a gift that was. When it came to replacing the key players Moyes left though that played so well in his first season: Distin Osman Pienaar Naismith, he bought very poorly. He refused to address the goal keeper situation, the signings apart from the 3 mentioned were generally of a poor standard, and eventually he started shoving square pegs in round holes.

At the start of the 14/15 season ever fam was buzzing for the team just like they were at the start of this season. It wasn’t their fault it went so badly wrong in both circumstances. Poor groups of weak cowardly players managed by poor managers.

Ultimately we lack and have lacked for years. Those players who stick in week in week out a 7/10 performance, and all good teams need 4-5 of them at the core, Barry was basically a classic example, Milner over the park is as well tbf, they won't ever set the world alight buy they allow the team a strong base, then you have more leeway for the more up and down players in the side.

Carsley, a peak jagielka, Cahill, pienaar, those type of players who just perform solid every game.
 

If Watford have allegedly said they want £15M compensation for Silva then they are not so much desperately trying to keep hold of him as making money out of him - as they do with the players they buy on the cheap and develop. Surely, if he wants to come to us, Silva should think about his expendability and ask to leave?
 
If Watford have allegedly said they want £15M compensation for Silva then they are not so much desperately trying to keep hold of him as making money out of him - as they do with the players they buy on the cheap and develop. Surely, if he wants to come to us, Silva should think about his expendability and ask to leave?

..I don’t think this is about money. If he wants to leave, I agree it’s looking like Silva needs to make that known to the Watford owners and perhaps go public. That would usually suffice but only time will tell.
 
After scrying for new information in my dog's water bowl, I can exclusively reveal that Pozzo is holding out for 15 million, and his mate Guidolin is on standby.

I can also see Marco looking at properties in the Wirral with his boyfriend.
 
We really weren't though.
Second half with bit more up top we would have won.


You must have been watching a different match than I was.

The game I watched contained two halves and it was only due to the efforts of Oumar of Nazareth that we weren’t dead and buried at the end of the first one :(
 

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